a combination of events/situations: early childhood trauma - (riding my tricycle down the stairs at age 2 1/2 ) incurring physical injury, emotional trauma and the ensuing emotional changes - fear, loss of trust, etc. I think subsequent injuries/traumas patter after the original , creating specific personality traits . (the pd personality) set all this ina specific genetic background OR family derived personality/ behavior traits. All of these things change hormonal patterns. I am certainly rambling... Basically wanted to say I think we havemore accidents than we used to - with less care/appreciation of the body...auto accidents extreme sports, atheletics, non-supportive lifestyles..

in regard to joop's post, i spend a hugh part of my day deciding what and when to eat in relation to doping...and due to my extreme thiness, have developed the habit of stuffing my self to try to maintain weight...even tho it clearly isn't working. i am eating 2-3 times what i used to - and losing weight.

thanks for starting this thread - it's critical!