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Old 03-03-2009, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by edj2001 View Post
Hi Jeanne,

I am very concerned that these Th1 diseases are contagious. That goes along with Marshall’s idea that Th1 diseases are caused by intracellular bacterial infection. The variety of bacteria and the sequence of infection determine symptoms for the various Th1 diseases. And, yes it looks like they can be passed with close contact. There are several MP members posting that have spouses and other family members ill and on the MP together. There is one family that I know of where both parents and three children are on the MP.

Now that I know the symptoms, I realize I have been infected all my life (I am 67 years young) and my illness/symptoms have varied through life depending on the condition of my immune system. If this is chronic infection, there won’t be remission until the bacteria are completely eliminated.

Between my father, his sister, their spouses, and their four children we have had a father (not related) & his son both with Parkinson’s disease, Crohn’s disease, Sarcoidosis, Breast Cancer, Cancer, Heart Disease (3), Arthritis, & Dementia. This is a strong case for infection, in my opinion, and it being contagious.

A result of Th1 illness is a dysregulated vitamin D nuclear receptor (VDR). The VDR is dysregulated by the bacteria acting as an antagonist disabling it. It will result in a high 1,25-D blood assay so that this assay is an indicator. Most doctors only test for the 25-D. Three years ago mine measured 50 pg/ml. The Merck manual says anything over 45 pg/ml will leach calcium from bone. My wife just had her 1,25-D tested and it is an alarming 64 pg/ml. We are in the process of starting her on the MP. Her symptoms are CFS, IBS, OCD as the big ones.

Gene
Hi Gene,

I pray that you are still hanging around as I very much appreciate your insight and generosity in taking the time to share. My mind is full of questions, and I am attempting to remain calm and not overreact to the new questions that are surfacing.

I will talk with Sarah's doctor about blood tests. Do you know if the bacteria associated with Th1 infections are anaerobic? The reason I ask is that we address Sarah’s pain with hyperbaric oxygen treatments. If they are anaerobic, hyperbarics kill those bacteria and could affect tests results … but I suppose that if results come back normal, we might be able to assume that there was never a problem or that we are addressing it through hyperbarics??? The fact that Sarah’s pain resurfaces when treatments are stopped is concerning when considering an infection connection, as that would indicate that it is not being completely killed off.

Please, please continue to share. At this time we are attempting to rule out the possibility of Lyme. Is that too a Th1 infection?

I hope you will excuse me if I ask some dumb questions. This is a whole new “world” for me. Is it possible to provide a basic, easy to understand summary of the Marshall Protocol for Th1 infections or do you know where I might find such an explanation. When things get too in depth, especially initially, I must admit that much of it goes right over my head.

Thanks,
Jeanne
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