Hi Curious, yes, I tried that thing of changing and saving, then changing back and saving.

Thunderbird is great, I really don't see a spam folder, though. When I mark things as spam they go into my trash folder.

The thing is, I was going to go into MSN yesterday to see if there's a spam folder there, and I couldn't get in because it thinks I have dialup and it couldn't find a dial up connection.

I had dial up briefly when I was trying to save money last fall.

So, it could be that the notifications are in MSN's junk folder... I wrote their techs yesterday and one very kindly responded with the directions to change the settings... I was about to do it when I remembered that MSN is soooooooooo slow that it drives me crazy. Each time it starts it takes several minutes, whereas Thunderbird is pretty much instant.

My computer shuts off a lot due to overrheating (even though I have a special fan for it) so going back to MSN being active would be a double edged sword...

Thank you so much, everyone, for your help. I think you've helped me identify the problem. I think when this legal stuff isn't so overpowering that I can go to MSN again, but right now... not so much.

Thanks you!!!!!!!