Thats what I meant by the "dude factor" God knows I love my son, but the "dude factor" used to get thick around my house, and it just got too much to handle some days. They are rambunctious, and rugged, and LOUD, and pick on each other, and you, and then themselves, and dont riegn in easily. I would much rather sit home, and watch re runs on TV vs a zoo full of teenage boys. Esp boys that g/f and momma were not able to stop from ruining a good day. Your friend needs a hug.