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Old 12-21-2006, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by heyjude5050 View Post
Thanks Karen,

I will try both the B12 and the milk thistle. The past few days my hand has gone for numb tingling to almost the feeling one gets when fingertips and toes thaw from exposure to the cold. It is more painful than annoying.
Boy, the appt can't get here fast enough for me.
I do see my family doc next Wednesday and then I will be able to let her know how much things have progressed with my hand and feet and we will go over the back x-rays.
Your advice does do land on deaf ears. I do sense the fact that you don't agree with the Klonipin, and I understand that. It is a harsh drug, but until they come up with something alternative, I won't go back to the pain.

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Judy
Hi Judy,
OMG, I know that "frostbite" type feeling well. So not fun.

I used to get it as a kid walking home from school in the Wisconsin cold. Not walking home so much as when I'd stand by the radiator by the front door and my hands would start to "thaw."

You will get significant improvement from methylcobalamin. Do get that kind of B12 because it works much faster and better. Some people who get the cyanacobalamin vitamin B12 pills don't notice enough difference to continue taking them.

It's not that I disagree with the pain medication you're taking... is that what Klonipin is? for pain? It's just that I know that even a lot of Ibuprofen can be hard on the liver. From experience I know that when there's huge pain it is not just excruciating, it's wearing. It just wears you down.

So I'm totally in favor of the pain killers.

But now, when I'm actually at the point where the Ibuprofen is causing me pain (I'm referring to the dental problems which the periodontist thinks were made worse by the Ibuprofen) I'm just determined to avoid Ibuprofen.

Last week I had a lot of pain and it was really testing my resolve. But I took a few of the serrapeptase. Have you tried that at all?

A family herbalist friend of mine suggested it several months ago and I was testing it out, but then I got quite sick again... I was left in the cold and dark waiting for my ADA taxi ride after taking my vote in, and that did me in.

The serrapeptase requires an empty stomach, so no eating for something like three hours before hand... and no eating for an hour after.

So when I was really sick I couldn't keep track. It sounds silly not to be able to keep track, but I have a bit of brain damage.

Last week when I had a horrid toothache from infection which got worse with stress, I took a serrapeptase before going to sleep, and another when the pain woke me about 4 a.m.

I would say it got rid of about half the pain. It really dulled it. Oh, and it also seemed to work against this piercing pain I was getting in my thoracic diaphragm.

But it might not be all right with your other medicines.

I put the email my friend sent me on my web site, and I put some of the research about serrapeptase there so people could read it.
http://health-boundaries-bite.com/Serrapeptase.html


I failed to follow through on my "study" to see if it reduced varicose veins for me the way it was said to be able to...

I'm really glad you're going to try the B12 and Milk Thistle. Look for the methylcobalamin kind of B12. There's some research that says that kind can regrow nerves. I love that, REGROW nerves.

And when you start the milk thistle start off slow with maybe one capsule a day. It releases toxins that have been trapped in the liver, and that can be a bit of a jolt. I really thought I was having my mind turn to cement, which is how it was quite a long time ago when I'd been living in hydrogen sulfide. But that went away in about three or four days.

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