Um, I don't know how much energy any of us have really. I was just suggesting it because recent discussions seemed to indicate a vacuum of some kind.

I'm for doing things too, but even in recent threads there have been different ideas of what to do. My thought would be to focus on one or two or three definable projects, and with a clear and do-able plan of action.

I also suggested that we talk not in public in our initial discussions - although any one who wanted to contribute could - well, we still do have freedom of association, at least in the US, and if we're not being funded by any entity, we have a right to have any conversation we want to privately. The PD community is not all on the same page. Maybe our group could accomodate every possible point of view, but I don't know that yet.

I also think I don't want to have these initial discussions with endless shadowy lurkers right at the beginning...

those are my initial responses, more to come.