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I think its easy to think that way.
Thanks for the advice. I don't know if I'll hate them like I do the people at the hospital but I will definitely appreciate.

I mean it sounds like of course the Scientologists are going to be bad because I am bad. But I hope not everyone thinks that way just because I am new and I throw in the word "Scientology." Its like thinking the Dalai Lama is bad.

He's not really bad and he's not really good.

Yes, in some sense he's what we make of him but this doesn't go beyond our personal speculation and superstition.

I think the hospital respected Scientology and he seemed to be an okay guy. *edit*. It just so happened this one was there and could be a witness to the atrocities done to me. Not that I have any care, of course. What matters most is others.

For example, if someone's opinion is very strong, sometimes it is better to let them win. Like the Scientologists for example. But it does make me stronger having the Scientologist on my side.

Thats just the way it goes.

I, however, didn't turn to religion for the answer to my battles in the hospital. I knew it was a business issue and I treated it as such. So I get along better with the psychiatrist as a result.

If you think badly about anything, usually it won't help. I never knew the guy was a scientologist when I prayed for him. My prayer is that all sentient beings may find ultimate enlightenment and temporary happiness. Whether you have to take medication it does not matter. It all depends on what makes people happy and is of most benefit to them and their journey. Does that make sense?

So in the community there are certain things I have to do. By supporting one another we get to a better place and learn to go on the journey. I don't want to hate Scientology. They have never done anything against me. They have never locked me up and abused me. I can only speak in "I" statements. Because all we have is our own opinion. Like I said, Scientology is neither good nor bad. *edit*
You should consult your Doctor before taking a drug that could kill you. I didn't get the chance. It was all a lie.

But I don't let it get to me. I remember, for example, one of the not social workers...but ummm, disability rights ladies that worked at the hospital. She said she felt weird working in a place that takes peoples rights away while she is trying to get them back. Thats sort of the way I feel having to take medication and be in the community but still having gone through what I have gone through and be an example. I can only speak for myself.

But this is not a religious forum so let's put the issue aside I was only referring to him for the sake of better understanding my plight in relationship to psychiatry and the role Scientology has in it in regards. I think that one of the qualities of a good student is that they are open minded. If you always think you are right and the other is wrong then that is bias or prejudice and not good.

When we are prejudice it doesn't matter what other people think we will do whatever we want. We can't live in a society like that. It would be utter chaos. Our society and government is built on the idea that we are all created equal and that we should share the burden.

I also met a Muslim in there. +

I also met a Christian.

I also met a Buddhist.

But what was most important was I always stayed the same. People think, you're going to change in the hospital. Yes, but it was me who actually changed by staying the same.

I think as long as you are on the right journey for yourself you don't have to worry. At first I thought this board was going to be very hard to deal with but I learned over a course of a few days that it was just my ego. If you went to learn what Scientology teaches you or I would probably realize the same thing.

It's not like we can condemn a religion like we are the governer or something.

I hope you don't think I'm a Scientologist just because I met a Scientologist. Its the same with Will Smith.

I think the real problem is people lack direction.

If you want spiritual direction you have to go to the Church. If anything I think that the best way to make change is through that avenue. But I guess they call Scientology a church, don't they!? What is my personal opinion on the subject? Opinions aren't worth a hill of beans. What really matters if you want to debate is someone sticking you with a needle a thousand times. See who gets angry first. Its fun.

Like I said I live in the present moment and my counselor thinks Im on the right path. The counselor is always right.

Just kidding. I think that if you have scientific evidence for a certain practice or profession then that legitimizes it. Scientology has their own professionalism. Psychiatry has its own professionalism. It is all based on the psyche though. The mind. If you don't understand the mind then what do you understand? Why is there a division between Church and state when they are both having to do with your mind? Good question. They say the mind and soul are different. But why is there a seperation...I went to the hospital and they had a Church there! We got to pray.

I don't see a real seperation. But I'm not a lobbyist.

The first thing I told the Muslim when I went in there was "these people are ****** up." And that proved true. But I am willing to take personal responsibility for the things that happen to me in life.

It seems like I'm trying to make them dissappear but its quite the opposite.

Well now that we know that the Scientologist is a witness you'd better get on him fast! No!!! You should be thinking, wow, isn't that great that someone was there to take note of your suffering. He really was a witness. A witness above the kind of diplomacy that goes on in thos prison hospitals. By the way, he had already won in court so he was very good witness.

Basically, there are two views. One of them is that the court decides everything: and if you believe that then the Scientologist is okay. The other is that there is a higher truth and then in that case the Scientologist is wrong. But the Scientologist is correct depending on the fact that he won in court and the court mandates who has to take medication and so on. This is basically what the psychologist in the hospital said. I won't say that the court decides because then I would be taking his remarks out of context. So that would be rude. Since the Scientologist believed in his Higher Truth, it does not contradict either of the two views, there being a court and there being a higher truth.

Just like here. There is what people say and there is a higher truth. You can't expect people to respond when you don't have any meaning.

Its just like a crazy person though who says something and it means something for him and only him. Because, he understands that noone is going to listen to him.

That is my defense.

No one is listening. Oh well.

But no, we want to force our ideas upon other people because we are not secure ourselves.

So we make up all sorts of things.

Then we have to justify them.

Isn't it fun?

But in the end the person who draws the gun is the person who gets shot.

At least if you think about the police

*edit* And the psychologists believe that your mind will go crazy!

The only one of those that actually imputes a result that is not similar to the cause is in the psychologist's standpoint. "Your mind will go crazy" So to elaborate. How the story goes is that you are ultimately the one responsible.

Either way, if you screw up you're going to suffer is the point. Regardless of your spiritual belief. Which religion is mostly just spirituality anyway today. I don't see a religion forum here at least. And most people will tell you its just spirituality and if you test them they don't know what they're talking about. The main idea should be if you do screw up not to suffer. So everyone has their own ways of dealing with that. But no one wants to suffer to get better.

Thats the real problem. You have to suffer to get better but you're already suffering so why not just keep suffering? It'll go away on its own won't it? That ain't gonna be happenin' brother!

You have to do something about it and it makes us all alike. We are all suffering and we all don't want to do anything about it. Thats my psychology.

So what I say is self-reflective wisdom. Like Dr. Phil, "how's it workin for ya?"

Then you will want to put an end to the continued suffering.

And you will also recognize that you are suffering.

Then you will want to cry or do something about it.

So I ask you, which will it be, cry or do something about it?

I will probably cry but not today. Today I am going to do something about it.

Thats a big step.

First, I'll remember my wish to take the medication for certain reasons. Then I'll meet with my friend who helps and then enter the community for health and wellness.

What are you doing?

All the time I'll know that at least I'm putting an end to the suffering. I finally stopped it! Recognizing this method is very useful. I will continue using it.

I statements please.

I feel sad that I didn't help the Scientologist.

I feel bad because now everyone thinks I am an enemy.

I feel happy because I was able to reflect on this.


Thanks again guys! You really threw me in the gutter this time. But I swam my way into the sewer where you can only drown me this time. But next time...

Stardate 2132 sewer worm to scotty: beam me up!

hahhahahah (clap)

I got to see the new movie? IT was AWESOME!!!!

They thought even though I was with staff that I was a movie critic because the guy I work with used to do reviews for that kind of thing especially music. So I was in the car with him and it was really a cool feeling. He's a great guy. Everyone is cool once you get to know them. You just have to put your part in to be there for them. Then you can even love the crazy guy.

We're fortunate to be in a place and age where medicine is effective and you can love the crazy guy at the same time.

Does the medicine make him not crazy?

I'll leave that up to to decide.

Until next time...

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