thanks Kitty, I try to stay cheerful... but that is what I am fighting at times, hard to keep up that ... thanks for the advice.. . I am on neurontin, the baclofen and have the tramadol.. took it once today and will take it tonight, and thinking of three times tomorrow and a few days. thanks again, hugss,sarah ( I did some yoga tonight to stretch out too, I read spasticity that stretching is one of the best things for it to keep from worse problems from spasticity)