Natalie,
Glad for #16 Sorry for the sticks/pain
I agree with Riverwild drinking ALOT of water and noticing color of urine. My infusionists are getting better and smarter because I am. I have learned my veins are deep and rolling. I pass this along to whoever is doing it and I have many. I, also, let them use my hand (at times) it doesn't hurt much; the thought of it made me cringe but it's not bad.
Hope you have better luck with 17
Linda