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Old 11-20-2009, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Cassmom View Post
wow you pretty much just described everthing about her. I am going to do that test on her

Cassmom,

She may be "growing" into that birth injury.
TOS, is often associated with RSD/CRPS, and it's all got to do with the shoulders, arms, hands, ribs and upper musculature.(TOS) From what you're saying, I would really suspect the TOS first.

I have more questions about her pain?
1)Does it radiate up her neck, perhaps headaches, after exertion? Down her arms, weakness in her arms, fingers.? Tingling in the fingers?

2)Does she have deep, deep burning pain, like in the bones?
Skin feel cold, or hot?

The first set of questions would indicate TOS.
The 2nd, more like RSD/CRPS.

Here's a quick layman's test for TOS.
(Easier than it sounds)

Have your daughter stand in front of you, facing you in a well lighted room.
Have her raise her hands in like the "Stick em up" manner.
Arms @ a 90 degree to her body, then bent at the elbow, hands straight up in the air.
Now, have her 'push' her elbows rearward as far as possible, while slightly raising her hands. This might cause a "burn" in her shoulder blades, but it's only gonna take a minute or so.
What you're watching for is her pulse. @ her wrists.
Do her hands change color?
Pink to white?

If she loses her pulse and/or her hands turn white, that's a good indication that she's got TOS.
Most every knowledgeable Neuro and Hand / Arm / Shoulder surgeon will do this test.

Also, notice her at rest.
Does she normally "rotate her shoulders inward while sitting", (Shoulders forward) and drop her hands in to her lap, centrally? Does she like a pillow under her arms? For support?

If you want to PM me, I'd be happy to try to help more.

Pete
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Cassmom....

I had TOS 20 odd yrs ago with bi-laterial first rib removal done to rectifiy my problem... Pete.. that is great advice... run threw the color/discoloration test as that is a given for TOS... my hands would turn virtually black when down at my side and lifted over my head they would blanch right to white immediately.... and much pain in my upper arms... mine was due to a car accident and I had 100 % blockage on my left side and 90% blockage on my right side.... now one can tell me 20 + yrs. later if my RSD stems from my TOS but again Pete.. good one.. on the RSD bone pain discription//.. that also is right on as it is pain the is so relentless and can not be confused by anyother pain... it's deep nerve pain.. burning and in my case constant!!!

This is a great site with many wonderful people who suffer terribly with RSD and many other afflictions.. we are here to help each other and welcome to our family, cassmom.. I am sorry .. as it must be just aweful to watch your child suffer with such conditions as ours... I always say I much rather it be me... it has got to be me to be the one ill as I couldn't stand to see any one else go thru this...

Lets us know whatelse we can do for you... I send a painless hug for your daughter...
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