Stardustkid, It just broke my heart to read what happened to you in PT. I hope things went better for you. Youshould try making your first rule if it doesnt feel right to you dont do it. I have a couple bad PT stories. ANd thats what I finally did. I had to learn to say stop or No! Frankly I dont think most of them even have a clue what to do with us. They are shooting in the dark. We have to train them. I hope your feeling better. I cant imagine living with this monster going to PT with no pain meds. Your a tough cookie!