Hi,

We talked again today. He will not agree to move his stuff out or limit it.
He got very upset that I even asked to talk to him about doing so.
He said that he has already reduced acquiring more stuff (sort of true. after we moved into the new place here he mostly stopped -- but not completely stopped -- getting new stuff).

I sent him to several counselors in the past.
He lied to them about the extent of the problem and told them he had a few things.
One counselor told him that it was a stage.

He and I spent part of the morning today trying to clean again.

M.