No apology needed,,did you happen to read the book that I rantrd out ,its a couple of posts up,,,my dr had the gall to ask if i was bipolar,,,,he has that word mixed up with fed up with pain,and dignity,and tired of being brow beat,and not being heard,,A dr and patient relationship should be a two way street,,not a dictatorship,,,,and your right,,they dont see us crying in pain, trying to do theropy or walking on crutches trying to walk thru the store to get food,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,your in my prayers 2nite,,,,,,,,,bobber