I will use your screen name and keep smiling I have been in awful pain nonstop everyday and i just hate that fact that all i can do is try and bare it. I don't want to be a nag or a pain to anyone. I find this site helpful. I did check out the scs forum and decided that i will not go with that procedure. I am nervous about having a foriegn objectg in my body and having to do deal with something like that permanently I don't think i can do that. There has got to be something else. I will keep searching until I find something. Thanks again everyone and i pray and hope you are feeling pain free