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Old 02-04-2007, 01:33 PM
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Default Evolutionary Discordance and Disease

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Originally Posted by MelodyL View Post
Wow, you are thorough aren't you????
Thanks! I try to be.

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Alan has just had a battery of tests. All negative. No gluten thing, no auto-immune thing.
I know several people who experienced amazing health improvements after eliminating gluten from their diet, despite getting negative results on gluten antibody tests. Accumulating evidence indicates that gluten is not healthy for ANYONE, with some people being more sensitive to it than others. Here is a link for anyone who's interested in learning more about this:

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Gluten is a Dubious Luxury of Non-Celiacs
by Ron Hoggan, co-author with James Braly, M.D. of Dangerous Grains
http://gluten-free.org/hoggan/dubious.txt
Also, more diseases and disorders may be autoimmune than what are commonly recognized as such, and diet appears to be a factor in many of them. For example...

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The Late Role of Grains and Legumes in the Human Diet, and Biochemical Evidence of their Evolutionary Discordance By Loren Cordain, Ph.D.
http://www.beyondveg.com/cordain-l/grains-leg/grains-legumes-1b.shtml#autoimmunity

"There is substantial evidence (both epidemiological and clinical) showing the role cereal grains may play in the etiology of such diverse autoimmune diseases as multiple sclerosis (MS), insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus (IDDM), rheumatoid arthritis, sjogrens syndrome, dermatitis herpetiformis, and IgA nephropathy."
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Cereal Grains: Humanity’s Double-Edged Sword
By Loren Cordain, Ph.D.
Department of Exercise and Sport Science, Colorado State University,
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=56206

Dietary cereal grains are the known environmental causative agent for at least two autoimmune diseases: celiac disease [230] and dermatitis herpetiformis [231]. Withdrawal of gluten-containing cereals from the diet ameliorates all symptoms of both diseases. Further, evidence from clinical, epidemiological and animal studies implicate cereal grains in the etiology of other autoimmune diseases.
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His neuropathy is not from diabetes. All this is absolutely certain right now.
What did they diagnose as the underlying cause of the neuropathy? I know that it can be difficult to pinpoint a cause for PN when diabetes is ruled out, but their absolute certainty makes it sound like they may have identified a cause.

Something else to keep in mind is that evidence indicates that the chronic "diseases of civilization" include more than just diabetes:

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Cordain L, Eades MR, Eades MD. Hyperinsulinemic diseases of civilization: more than just syndrome X. Comp Biochem Physiol Part A 2003;136:95-112.
http://thepaleodiet.com/published_research/

Compensatory hyperinsulinemia stemming from peripheral insulin resistance is a well recognized metabolic disturbance that is at the root cause of diseases and maladies of Syndrome X (hypertension, type 2 diabetes, dyslipidemia, coronary artery disease, obesity, abnormal glucose tolerance). Abnormalities of fibrinolysis and hyperuricaemia also appear to be members of the cluster of illnesses comprising Syndrome X. ... [A]cne, early menarche, certain epithelial cell carcinomas, increased stature, myopia, cutaneous papillomas (skin tags), acanthosis nigricans, polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) and male vertex balding ... may, in part, have hyperinsulinemia at their root cause and therefore should be classified among the diseases of Syndrome X.
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They know he has severe spinal stenosis and they are tending to believe that the PN comes from that. And because he is so much better after going to Dr. Theirl, his chiropractic/neurologist, well, many docs now feel that his PN is due to his lower back stenosis thing going on.
Good to hear that he got a diagnosis and some successful treatment. Just having a specific diagnosis instead of a vague "idiopathic" (unknown) one can give a person a better feeling of knowledge and control over their illness.

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Also, you mention that he eats multi-grain and splenda and whey shakes. Believe me, he got MUCH BETTER after he changed his diet to eat this way. 18 years go when he started to get the PN, he was eating red meat, no veggies, white break, macaroni, sweets. starches, etc. etc.
I am not at all surprised that your husband improved after changing from a diet that included macaroni, sweets, starches and commercial, fatty red meats. However, I do not think that means that grains or whey shakes are necessarily healthy for anyone. I provided a couple of links about grains already, and the latest research on cow's milk found that it contains high levels of betacellulin, including in the whey portion, that may have negative effects on human health. The research has even caused Dr. Michael Eades to reconsider his advocacy of dairy products:

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Milk. It does a body good. Or Not.
Posted by Michael R. Eades, M.D.
http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/?p=421
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The black and blues after the exercising were from the plavix. He no longer gets them often. Maybe once in a while. He is very careful not to bump himself.
Is Plavix considered the sole cause of his easy-bruising, with this lesser continued easy-bruising considered an after-effect of the Plavix, or is he still taking some, but at a lower dose, or is there some other attributed cause?

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And the not healing ulcers on his foot are NOT CAUSED BY ANYTHING TO DO WITH DIABETES OR A PRE-DIABETIC CONDITION. He has had all the tests. The podiatrist took x-rays and found there is a bone near the ulcer that is inpinging on the ulcer .... IF the ulcer comes back, the doctor will then determine if he indeed will shave down the bone that's doing the problem.
So is the podiatrist saying that the bone is causing the foot ulcers, or that it is aggravating them? What is wrong with the bone that it is causing problems? It sounds like he may have a bony calcification that the or is there a structural defect such as flat feet or overly high arches that is creating a bone impingement on the inflamed areas?

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So I do thank you for all your concerns and good infomation.
You're welcome. I hope the articles I provided links to are informative for someone.

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My husband is a new man thanks to these whey drinks. He drinks only one a day now. He eats like a horse and he looks great. He also execises like a banshee and wouldn't have it any other way.
It's also possible to look great without consuming whey drinks or grains. Check out Art De Vany's photo at age 60: http://www.cbass.com/EvolutionaryFitness.htm (scroll down to see two images of De Vany)

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You do what works for ya!!!!! This works for him.
I agree with that as a general principle, and pay attention to the signals my body puts out, and I also consider the latest science, because there may be processes going on in my body that I am unaware of. I don't expect anyone to believe what I've said here just because I personally benefitted from the information. In general, I let the science speak for itself.

This gets confusing for some people, because there are contradictory studies on many health issues. That's why I think it is important to educate oneself so one can separate the good science from the bad and make one's own informed choices. People tend to be able to stick to a health program better when they understand it and the alternatives. I found that S. Boyd Eaton's theory of evolutionary nutrition cleared up a lot of the confusion because it's the only theory in nutrition science that provides a foundation for understanding all of human nutrition and has tremendous predictive value (which has already been proven in several studies). But don't take my word for it, check it out for yourself. You be your own judge because you're much more likely to believe something you've investigated yourself than because someone else told you about it.

Good luck to you, Melody, and to your husband!
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