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Old 07-26-2010, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by daylilyfan View Post
Since I probably have neuropathy now, an EMG would be a test for that. I discussed it with my PM doc at Clev Clinic last week. She said she never recommends them to anyone with RSD. And, she said it won't affect the outcome. Not like the would find a broken bone or something that can be fixed. EMGs just confirm diagnosis of some things. Maybe it's different if you have RSD from a cut nerve or something.
Hi there. The problem is that "small-fiber neuropathy," the hallmark of RSD/CRPS isn't picked up by an EEG/Nerve Conduction Study. See, The diagnostic criteria for small fibre neuropathy: from symptoms to neuropathology, Grazia Devigili, ValeriaTugnoli, Paola Penza et al, Brain (2008), 131, 1912-1925, FULL TEXT @ http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/...131/7/1912.pdf:
Abstract
Small fibre neuropathy (SFN), a condition dominated by neuropathic pain, is frequently encountered in clinical practise either as prevalent manifestation of more diffuse neuropathy or distinct nosologic entity. Aetiology of SFN includes pre-diabetes status and immune-mediated diseases, though it remains frequently unknown. Due to their physiologic characteristics, small nerve fibres cannot be investigated by routine electrophysiological tests, making the diagnosis particularly difficult. Quantitative sensory testing (QST) to assess the psychophysical thresholds for cold and warm sensations and skin biopsy with quantification of somatic intraepidermal nerve fibres (IENF) have been used to determine the damage to small nerve fibres. Nevertheless, the diagnostic criteria for SFN have not been defined yet and a 'gold standard' for clinical practise and research is not available. We screened 486 patients referred to our institutions and collected 124 patients with sensory neuropathy. Among them, we identified 67 patients with pure SFN using a new diagnostic 'gold standard', based on the presence of at least two abnormal results at clinical, QST and skin biopsy examination. The diagnosis of SFN was achieved by abnormal clinical and skin biopsy findings in 43.3% of patients, abnormal skin biopsy and QST findings in 37.3% of patients, abnormal clinical and QST findings in 11.9% of patients, whereas 7.5% patients had abnormal results at all the examinations. Skin biopsy showed a diagnostic efficiency of 88.4%, clinical examination of 54.6% and QST of 46.9%. Receiver operating characteristic curve analysis confirmed the significantly higher performance of skin biopsy comparing with QST. However, we found a significant inverse correlation between IENF density and both cold and warm thresholds at the leg. Clinical examination revealed pinprick and thermal hypoesthesia in about 50% patients, and signs of peripheral vascular autonomic dysfunction in about 70% of patients. Spontaneous pain dominated the clinical picture in most SFN patients. Neuropathic pain intensity was more severe in patients with SFN than in patients with large or mixed fibre neuropathy, but there was no significant correlation with IENF density. The aetiology of SFN was initially unknown in 41.8% of patients and at 2-year follow-up a potential cause could be determined in 25% of them. Over the same period, 13% of SFN patients showed the involvement of large nerve fibres, whereas in 45.6% of them the clinical picture did not change. Spontaneous remission of neuropathic pain occurred in 10.9% of SFN patients, while it worsened in 30.4% of them.

PMID: 18524793 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] PMCID: PMC2442424
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18524793

My neurologist has been mapping the areas in which, in response to a pin prick, I feel pressure but without any sense of sharpness. And quite surprisingly, even though the CRPS has by all appearances been centered in both my feet and ankles, I exhibit the same symmetrical response in all four extremities. There is little if any sense of sharpness "below" my knees and elbows, to the point that I looked down a few years back, and happened to see a hornet grinding its stinger into my wrist, but felt nothing!

And for the classic article tieing CRPS to small-fiber neuropathy, see, Evidence of focal small-fiber axonal degeneration in complex regional pain syndrome-I (reflex sympathetic dystrophy), Oaklander AL, Rissmiller JG, Gelman LB, et al, Pain 2006;120:235-243, FULL TEXT @ http://www.rsds.org/2/library/articl..._pain_2006.pdf.

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