Cycleops yeah i know wha tu mean, i have 1 dr that actually listens and i dont leave her office worse than when i showed up.

and COncerned Lady:

Yes i do take methyl sublinguals and no acid blockers..
When this came on I was suppper healthy. I was cycling approx 350 km a week, lifting weights etc.. THen i started a landscaping job fixing flower beds, weeding, tree trimming etc.. it was after that job that i started to feel it.

my biggest mistake is listening to the dr that told me to stop working out while they try and "figure it out".

Im doing very light work outs now, stationairy bike and low weights mainly for stretching. feels great! Although my symptoms flare up a bit the next day when im a bit sore, when they calm down I feel really good.