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Old 09-07-2010, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lebelvedere View Post
Hello, Alffe: I'm wondering if the confusion on my part is not revealing...

And so, whose anger is it -- really?
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Dear Tom,

oh, revealing it is... but it says more about you than it does about Alffe or Michael. you claim not to feel angry, but you have an unconscious too...........

~ waves ~
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Hello, Waves: Nowhere did I claim not to feel anger. Please look at my earlier post on this string; anger is part of the suicide equation, but there are a lot of other elements as well. circumstances as well as emotions (maybe all of them).

The great thing about strings is that they keep the topic of conversation in front of us, an inch or two away. This particular string is not about me; it is Alffe's. Let's keep it that way. Psychological digressions in this case are endless, maybe because the forces behind suicide are endless.
correct, this discussion doesn't belong in Alffe's thread... but i wanted to reply just briefly to what you said, and doing so in the same thread as your post seemed logical... but yes, not appropriate to continue conversation there. (so, i've placed this response in your thread, i hope that is ok.)

and yes, i did mis-state your take on anger... its part in the equation. good that you acknowledge anger, my point was more about how you interpreted Alffe's post, and that your anger, perhaps incompletely acknowledged influenced your interpretation.

basically, i felt it was not Alffe to be sensing projected or (more the case of experiencing someone else's emotions) introjected anger at all. i felt, in your confusing Alffe's post, that you could be projecting your own anger onto Michael's act... onto Alffe's account of the events.

and of course this is a psychological digression, as was yours. you did wonder if it was revealing, and my notions on your own anger came to my mind as soon as i read that, before even reading your interpretation on Alffe. i am sorry if you found my post offensive. it was not intended to be. it is just an observation... a possibility. perhaps food for thought?

i am truly sorry if i overstepped bounds.

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