I am really glad that you have PJ Mark...those meds are so often necessary evils.

You people have been making me think too much. Am rereading a fairly new text book..the anniversary edition of Synopsis of Psychiatry by Kaplan and Sadock's and it's amazing how little has changed since Durkheims theory at the end of the 19th century. I moved passed him to Freud's Theory and his belief that that suicide represents aggression turned inward against an introjected, ambivalently cathected love object.
Freud doubted that there would be a suicide without an earlier repressed desire to kill someone else. I never did "get" Freud!

And then I came to Menningers's Theory...(he's my kind of guy)...now I have to find The Trout.