You both have valuable opinions to add to a valuable discussion

I hope you will all benefit from this thread as you reflect on and share information and experience with others, whose opinions are equally valuable

This is the essential purpose of these forums....to exchange information and experience..... and we need more in depth discussions like this one, where everyone can feel comfortable about sharing their view, whether philosophical or experiential, without there being any concern at a negative response on a personal level. Debate is healthy and encouraged, and disagreement is an essential element in intelligent discourse, but you are all able to do so with civility and respect.

I look forward to seeing this conversation resume...it IS an important one