ideopathic pn is not necessarily permanent, or not necessarily anything for that matter. its just cause unknown. there are a few potential causes that can be treated with vast improvement shown. there are people who have posted here, were ideopathic at some point and either later learned what their cause was, or never learned the cause but provided themselves with the tools their body needed to heal nerves and are today almost completely healed and living normal lives. dont give up before you even start.