I've herd about the lidocain ointment (does is help?) ild be afraid of putting it on. PT tried the icy hot .(that sucked real bad) I have mentioned the lydicain to my PM dr and I feel as if he is ignoring me as i never get a response. I feel as if while I'm speaking to him all he is doing is refilling the scripts I'm already on and thinking about what show might be on tonight. gabepentine(neurontin). didn't work out to well for me . good luck to you. I suggest that you keep a running chart on each of your appt.'s with your dr,s and keep notes about what is spoken about. maybe that will be better if you can show the dr yu are listening . if not then it is something good to throw.(LOL)