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Old 04-18-2007, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MelodyL View Post
David:...
I have a question about the rebuilder. I understand the principle behind it. You put your feet in a basin of water, you put the electrodes in the water, and a gentle current does something and helps the nerves, right?
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So here you have essentially the same scenario. A water basin, electrodes and feet. The only difference is the rebuilder doesn't change the color of the water and it supposed to help the nerves.
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In the video (with the lady in the lab coats), you have the exact same scenario, a water basin, feet in the water and two electrodes.

So how is the rebuilder different?

Thanks much.
Melody
You are using language inaccurately so your thinking is not accurate.

Putting your feet in a basin of water with electrodes is a procedure, not a principle.

The principle behind the Rebuilder, TENS, and similar apparatus is to apply a gentle direct electric current of specific shape and frequency to 1) stimulate the nerves to fire in a specific pattern which has been experimentally found to be healing, reestablishing of synaptic integrity, and/or pain relieving, and/or to 2) stimulate certain muscles to fire with a specific pattern and amplitude to exercise them, heal them, and improve blood circulation. The Rebuilder and other electric stimulation units are often used with pasted on electrodes rather than the water bath. I think that the water bath works better because the current is spread more evenly over a wider area, and you absorb a small amount of the Epsom salts which is therapeutic in it's own right.

You do not have the same scenario, "essentially". One is a sales pitch for a procedure of unknown effectiveness. The other is the real thing you do at home or that a physical therapist does to help relieve pain and help healing. It works for animals with damaged nerves or nerve endings and I don't think they fall for sales pitches. The water changing color is a feature that the Rebuilder, TENS, etc. don't have. Too bad, that would be soooo coooool!

You do not have "the exact same" scenario. One difference is that one is bogus and the other not. You breathe in and out, "the exact same" as John Edwards. Does that mean you are extremely wealthy, male, have great hair and a million dollar smile? Of course not. Nobody but John Edwards breathes in and out "the exact same" as John Edwards. The words are "the exact same", but the reality is that they are not "the exact same".

You can say that a tabby cat walks and hunts "the exact same" way a leopard does. That isn't true. Just because the words "loose jointed walk" and "stalking and pouncing" are used for both doesn't make a tabby cat a leopard. In other words, don't confuse words with reality or pictures with reality. Words and pictures can be the exact same or similar, but the reality behind them can be as different as Adolf Hitler compared to Mel Brooks playing Adolf Hitler in "To Be or Not To Be."

There is a lot of experimental and clinical research with positive results using electric stimulation to heal and reduce pain in damaged nerves and nerve endings. You can get an idea from reading the sites at http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...on&btnG=Search

Here's a few thousand medical and biological journal articles if you need more convincing: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=...r=&btnG=Search

I'm sure that other units works as well or better than the Rebuilder. The difference is the good experience of me and others on this and the previous forum with the Rebuilder. I can't recommend others that I haven't tried. Some people in the old forum had good results with the similar Rejuvenator, but that company seems to have gone out of business.

My physical therapist used a great unit that concentrates the stimulation in an area between the electrodes, in an interference pattern. But, the ones my physical therapist use cost several thousand dollars each, require certification to buy, and training to use properly. In contrast, the Rebuilder costs hundreds and the only training needed is the video that you found so amusing.
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