So so true. I wouldn't know where to begin. I had so many people tell me to try this or that, and at first I tried it all. Tried all different kinds of vitamins and minerals and different massage techniques. It is a very crazy thing this TOS, and most do not understand. I remember going to multiple doctors who looked at me like I was crazy. I remember the first time I seen the nurse in the vascular doctor office, who knew exactly what I was talking about and I turned to my wife and said "see I am not crazy". My wife later told me she was starting to wonder if I was losing my mind because it seemed like every week a new symptom had started.