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Old 09-15-2012, 09:23 PM
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Default possible help for sleep issues

We suffer horribly from lousy, crappy sleep every night, no more than 2-3 hours at a time. I was just reading about how our modern day diets have changed from the past, notably with regard to the parts of animals no longer eaten routinely (liver, gizzard, etc.), and relevant here, broths made from their bones.

Bones have all kinds of good things for us, importantly, glycine. I had never really studied glycine before, but it turns out, it's very involved in our sleep cycle. Here's a 2008 article discussing glycine and it's role in REM sleep disorder (how is it that no doc has ever mentioned this but has willingly offered free Ambien samples?):

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0327172155.htm

Some folks take gelatin but I was never a jello fan and dont' think we could stomach adding the plain Knox gelatin to our smoothies or yogurt...so we're going to go the bone broth route. Interestingly, bone broth is something that Dr. Wahls, the doctor who recovered from MS, eats daily, as discussed in her book "Minding My Mitochondria", we've talked about it here a couple of times.

I get Dr. David Williams' newsletter and this is a subject of his September issue. He says he personally now takes about two tablespoons of gelatin a day and has noticed a "very significant" improvement in his sleep quality, waking up refreshed (can it be? we haven't had this in years....). Glycine has been studied and reported to have a quieting effect throughout the entire nervous system, help with epileptic seizures, and alleviate muscle spasms associated with MS.

Has anyone tried glycine? The nice thing about the bone broth is that you can use it to make rice, lentils, probably even pasta, as well as a base for a soup. It's also cheap

Whoa, just read another article on this from July, 2012...turns out, you need both glycine AND GABA together:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0711131030.htm

No wonder the GABA didn't work that well for us earlier, we didn't take it with glycine. Planning to start taking both at bedtime and will report back. Note that the articles mention REM sleep disorder is an early indicator of PD, wow.

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