My son sent me an update today. 17 people were arrested, may be involved in this whole bug issue. I guess it was on the internet. Yes, I am grateful to have my son be able to help. I never would have been able to keep a PC without him. I never had a PC even in college, so I was late is learning anything. NT, got me more involved, thats for sure. Still don't cut and paste, and my son would rather do the stuff himself than teach me! I think I just lack patience. Have a good day Judi, and I hope that your PC trouble can be fixed. ginnie