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Old 03-02-2013, 12:56 PM
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No one knows how to turn back the clock on immune problems but to say that nutrition and how you treat your body, including things like meditation, don't help disease states is not only a bit arrogant but scientifically incorrect. Just put in "nutrition autoimmune" in Pub Med and do your own research.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23343946

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23447682

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23306192

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23277162

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23188981

There are so many studies and examples of how nutrition, sleep, body habitus, love and so many other factors come into play with health. I personally do not rule anything out. Why? How else can we learn and evolve if not by entertaining ALL possibilities? If someone is told over and over in their life that they are worthless, how do you think their health will be later in life? If a child never gets enough calcium and vitamin D and exercise when they are in the bone growth years, how will their bone density be when they are older? I do believe that some things can happen when we are young, emotionally or physically, that affect our health later in life. Genes can mutate even after we're born. And they can also HEAL.

Abby, you know how hormones and the thyroid affect MG. Why is nutrition any different? No, that isn't to say that MG will disappear if you do this or that. But if you haven't had a deficiency, you can't know what that does to your overall health. It's horrible. Anemia will also affect how your body can carry oxygen. So many factors come into play when looking at the immune system.

No one is saying that any of us are responsible for our own illness. I didn't get that at all by what Llonghair said. I personally don't like "The Secret" because the philosophy of thinking positively and all will be well with your world is not true. Think of the self-deprecation and guilt that happens when people do think that way and are still sick. Guilt is not helpful. Forgiveness is healing and does far more to help the body. I prefer the philosophy of be the best you that you can be, welcome what each day brings and try to be as happy and useful as you can. It might not do anything to help MG but it does help a person sleep well at night and feel good about who they are.

If anyone wants to improve their overall health, however, it's important to have an open mind to the possibilities of what can improve MG. Doctors in India, China, Japan and many other countries truly understand the importance of what we put into our bodies on our health. We are very medically "young" here in the U.S.

I know someone whose brother, a brilliant man, has put his AIDS into "remission," if you will, by Eastern medicine.

Without vitamin C, you get scurvy. Without B12, you die. Too much gluten and you have a slow death if you have CD. Too few or too many calories can cause disease, morbidity or mortality. The examples are more numerous than the naysayers.

4-eyes, it can take months to recover the nerves after a B12 deficiency. Because I didn't get care soon enough, or the right care (i.e., sublingual B12 instead of B12 shots), my peripheral neuropathy persisted for a year. I still have leftover damage. However, if I don't take B12 daily, what is left does get worse. So it can be a matter of quality of change and not eradication of symptoms completely.

There aren't many MG-specific articles on this topic, probably because neurologists keep chanting that "MG is the most well-understood autoimmune disease." Even if we live thousands of years, we'll never know everything.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6117124

And MG affects our overall health due to diminished muscle capacity, which I hardly need to point out since we're all painfully aware of that. You can't metabolize well, pump blood or have good peristalsis without strong muscles. One thing always leads to another in the body. Peristalsis is key to processing our nutrients too.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/726366

There is so much in the world we do not know or understand. There are studies that show cells thriving when notes of "love" are put in a petri dish with them. If you haven't seen the affect of certain musical vibrations on cells or water, well, it's amazing. Plants are thought to sense when someone means them harm and "emotionally" react to that. Our world is full of possibilities and I, personally, don't want to ignore any of them.

I am grateful that anyone is willing to discuss this topic. We all have something to add to it. And I can't help but think of Desert Flower when discussing it.

Llonghair, Is there something in your lunch that doesn't agree with your brain! Too much of a certain amino acid, perhaps?

Since taking Mestinon, my eyesight, as documented by my ophthalmologist, has improved. Though not the DV. They were amazed by that since eyesight usually gets worse with age. That's only one example of the effect on health when you are given the proper treatment.

Annie

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