Thanks for this, Alffe. It does make you think.

You know I'm against any suicide because of my history and my brother's history.

I'm troubled that anyone thinks that someone who is bed-ridden and cannot move becomes a 'vegetable'.

I don't believe it. I've seen how hard some people fight to live. Like Stepehn Hawking, for instance.

I think *LIFE* is the whole package -- including the struggle at the end.

My Mom made me swear "no nursing home" and "no leg amputation" and "no colostomy" from the time I was 12 years old. I kept most of the promise. But, it was hard. I did consent to the colostomy which ended up being screwed up horrendously. She was a real mess at the end. Makes me wonder if she could predict the future

I don't really think you can plan or predict what will be in the future.

What troubles me the most is the worry that "society" will eventually take on this belief-system "that to be old and disabled is to be useless".

Thanks. Hugs for the room.

Barb