Hey Stevem53...Congratulations ...17 years wow that is great. I think I have been sober long enough now to really beleive that I will be for the rest of my life. I remember a time when that was something I could just not think about because the thought of it seemed so terrifying!! Now my life has changed so much. I love life! I love my sobriety! I will always keep with my programme because I would not want to go back to where I was. Untill I got sober and joined my 12 step group I never knew how people functioned. In life, in relationships ...in anything other than drinking. Now that I am a part of the world I do not ever want to give this up. I have life now and isn't life GREAT