Im glad to hear --he's a good man then and chalk it up to a bad day. I don't know why but every family seems to have a black sheep. Where is Mario Ohio?? Good general doc should be able to get you a referral instead of having to go to hospital with the bipolar. You right you want to exhaust all conservative meathods surgery should be only a lost resort. I did not have option all 4 disc were pressing on my spial cord without surgery I would have been parlyzed. Im in good shape now from the surgery now and have no regrets.