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Old 07-01-2013, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho View Post
mouse1's experience and success with Cymbalta is unique to mouse1. The comment "I don't think using natural remedies would be enough, the combination levels of Serotonin and Norpinephrine to promote healing and reduce pain cannot be achieved without using SNRI's like Cymbalta or Amytriptyline. " has no basis in research. Amitriptyline is not an SNRI. It is a tri-cyclic anti-depressant.

If you read the research about Cymbalta, it was approved after only being studied in 4 published studies. The law suits against Eli-Lily are starting to pile up. It is currently one of the most highly promoted psychotropic drugs. When one looks into the way psychotropic drugs are designed, they attempt to replace weak systems. SSRI's were originally modeled after St John's Wort. The actual method of action for them is unknown.

In comparison, there are plenty of natural supplements that the body and brain know how to use because the body already uses them. In some, the body needs more than the normal levels. In others, there is a lack of the substance requiring supplementation to get to the body's normal level. B-12 is a good example. mrsD can explain how some people just do not absorb B-12 in it's common form.

Environmental factors, pollutants, and toxins in our food and such can throw these normal balances out of whack. The study of ortho-molecular psychiatry is a good example. There is a lot know about balancing out of balance systems. Finding the out of balance situations can be difficult so a trial and error process is often used. Most drugs are prescribed with a trial and error protocol. There is far more art and gamble to meds that is let on. Unfortunately, the profitability of patented drugs pervert the idea of seeking the best interest of the patient.

I wish profits did not get in the way of finding the truth about drugs. Unfortunately, that will never be the case.
Mark,

With all due respect I was comparing the suggestion of using something like L-Tryptophan to my own experience of using an SNRI, because the two are incomparable. You are also not taking L-Tryptophan in isolation.

If you are in the acute phase of PCS my own opinion is using something like L-Tryptophan or indeed supplements might not be enough. Cymbalta is without doubt both an excellent pain killer and antidepressant and very fast acting, my doctor listened to my symptoms and prescibed it and my symptoms started to reduce within days. Within weeks of taking it I was back working again.

Of course the medication worked for me and it might not work for other people, but acute symptoms sometimes need strong medication to resolve them.

Credit to you for finding a natural remedy that works for you after long term use.
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PCS following head injury November 2012. Experienced dizzyness, light and noise sensitivity, hypercusis, fatigue, insomnia, migraines, facial pain, problems concentrating, irritability, sensory overload, exercise intolerance.

Symptoms mostly resolved, working full time and I am now mostly better. I wake 6am daily since my injury. Was experiencing daily Neuralgia which was controlled with Cymbalta 30mg, Lyrica 200mg daily. Now only on 30mg Cymbalta.
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