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06-29-2015, 11:52 AM | #1 | ||
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I have friends who work with supps that work directly with the memory etc. A couple younger friends do have the fear of Alz as they had it in their parents. Another says she feels sharper on the Prevegan she takes...she's gotten off it says she misses it. She's going back on.
So much is unknown and genetics play a role is about everything health wise. Years ago when I heard about the aluminum issue, I got rid of all aluminum cookware, stopped using foil for the most part, so I don't know how much connection there is valid...don't know. |
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06-29-2015, 08:13 PM | #2 | |||
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Caroline, the link between aluminium and risk of AD remains controversial - I don't think that there is yet any clear evidence either way.
As far as Prevagen is concerned, you may find the information in this link of interest; http://myadvocates.com/blog/dangerou...-investigation . The central issue is that Prevagen is taken by mouth and its allegedly therapeutic ingredient (apoaequorin) is a protein. All proteins are broken down into their amino acids during digestion. Quoting from the link: "The product cannot work as advertised because its only purported active ingredient, apoaequorin (a protein), is completely destroyed by the digestive system and transformed into common amino acids no different than those derived from other common food products." Because of this, taking any protein which may be of therapeutic benefit by mouth is pointless.
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06-29-2015, 11:57 PM | #3 | ||
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Thanks, I brought this to my friend's attention again. She was going to get back on Prevagen. In the meantime I did a search on swansons search for:
memory brain supplements and up came 94 supps. I kinda liked MindCare..... |
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06-30-2015, 01:47 AM | #4 | |||
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Caroline, I think that looking for dietary supplements which may reduce the risk of AD is a good plan.
My wife has begun to do this - her maternal uncle died from AD as well so she is concerned about genetic risk factors. The information in this (fairly technical) paper could help you and your friend to decide which dietary supplements might be of benefit; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4202787/ .
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06-30-2015, 01:00 PM | #5 | ||
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Kiwi, you have seen how much I talk about OPC's (grape seed ex et al) and for me I bank on these for so much of my health issues and prevention...we were told back in 1995, Pycnogenol may prevent cancer, and that is why I got on it. Now these OPC's are used in cancer research labs......
This particular friend can't seem to take the OPC's due to a colitis conditon she lives with. She also is challenged with horrible allergies/sinus and OPC's are HUGE with these issues. I have not bought a drug for allergies/sinus since 1995..... |
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06-30-2015, 08:51 PM | #6 | ||
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Hi Diandra, I want to return to the original question of this thread:
”What is the point of dragging out poor demented loved ones to all sorts of hospitals for expensive tests for evaluations that often frighten or confuse them when in the end, all they do is write a script for Aricept or namenda that does very little, or even worse, the side effects are dangerous for the elderly or frail.” I agree with you. If there are no new meds or treatments available, I see no point in subjecting an elderly loved one to unnecessary tests and procedures which can make the situation worse. One of my uncles developed a type of dementia and my cousin was determined to find out the cause. The doctors ruled out Alzheimer’s, but despite many expensive hours of testing, a definitive diagnosis was never made. The doctors finally put him on Aricept, which could have originally been done without any testing just based on his symptoms alone. Well, he seemed to improve on the medication, so they increased his dosage. The next day he became super angry and violent and finally had to be hospitalized. My aunt was traumatized and although my uncle recovered after his medication was stopped, my aunt never trusted him again. |
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07-01-2015, 05:53 AM | #7 | |||
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Caroline, I saw the link that you posted about a clinical trial looking at OPCs in the context of AD - I hope that it gives good results.
I don't take OPC supplements but eat lots (all kinds) of fresh fruits and vegetables. They are full of antioxidants and many other good things as well. The local saying for this is "eat a rainbow", meaning all colours of fruits and vegetables. I think that you and I have different but equally valid ways of staying healthy.
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07-01-2015, 07:31 AM | #8 | ||
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Yet again, I would like to return to the points specifically mentioned by Diandra to start this thread.
As I look back through the responses so far, most of the comments have discussed use of supplements and alternatives such as taking OPCs, avoiding aluminum, the effectiveness of Prevagen, and eating your fruits and vegetables. Does anyone here have an opinion about questions posed directly by Diandra in her original post, such as whether or not the elderly with dementia should be subjected to lengthy testing procedures, or if medications like Aricept are dangerous or effective for them? |
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