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Old 02-23-2012, 09:14 AM #1
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I am a patient of dementia and i wanted to build a helmet for my self, I would be greatful if u can share your helmet designs with the group
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Guys the therapy is not a miracle cure for all types of Dementia. In the case of neuro degeneration caused by toxic metals, if the advancement is aggressive you will most likely be able to halt it, even reverse slightly and maintain the improvement, but to completely reverse will depend on how aggressive the degeneration is vs the cells regeneration ability. I think you will find it is very powerful against parkinsons, when applied to the back of the skull/neck joint. It can most likely help most brain conditions, but it will be some time before that is all tested and known.

Strange when you mention infra red to the not so well informed, they think its like a heater that fries the brain and is red in colour. Nothing like people who jump to conclusions, a little information is a dangerous thing for some lol.

I have converted mine to an adjustable head size version of my own design, I have donated the design to Quiet Mind Foundation to wish them well, so fits most people.

Here we are in 2012, with a 50 year old technology, which very safe and drug free, has a great potential with further developments, and since 2005 we have only come a little forward due to lack of investment funding. Don't hold your breath, may be a very long time before this is ever on the market, lucky enough medical grade LED technology will be much cheaper by then hopefully. Some may find it interesting to know that this freq occurs in natural sunlight, just not enough of it

Mine is in a box in the roof space, gathering dust now.
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:42 PM #2
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Default Helmet?

How are any of you people doing with your handmade helmets?
It's been a few years. How are the treatments going?
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:46 AM #3
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How are any of you people doing with your handmade helmets?
It's been a few years. How are the treatments going?
I second this question. Would really like to hear from users. Any good?

Thanks.
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The LED's you require are made by Pacer international in England.

You need 840 for an effective helmet, so thats 12 boards of 70.
They get hot, yes so fan cooled shrouds are needed. They may also supply these. Also required - a power supply that will power both the led's and fans on seperate circuts.
The helmet should have eight around the skull, two on top and two hanging down on adjustable brackets (light bendable soft metal) for the eyes sockets which are the most important part.
Dose is 6 to 8 mins per time, you can use once or twice daily.
Results typically start after 10 to 14 days, however it can take two to three months to get a decent result.

This is EXPENSIVE to built due to the LED cost.

Do not use on people with epilepsy.

May have postivive effects on many other neuro conditions also, but i have no personal exerience of anything but Dementia/Alzheimers. Typical results in an 84 year old who was scoring 12 on the MMSE before 10 weeks treatment.
Faster response to questions, happier mental state, asking a lot more questions, short term memory recall improvement. Now scoring 19 on MMSE, and easy to converse with.

Results on younger patients especially those under 70 happen much quicker.

Hope this helps.
Hello Chiefgroover,
A change from 12 to 19 on MMSE is a profound change indeed.Congratulations.
I've been planning to build a helmet for my wife's Mild Cognitive Impairment but recently came across an article by Dr Rowen about using a single LED with a wavelength of 810 nm that is positioned to shine up one nostril, where access to the brain is through a bone much thinner than that of the skull. A U.S. company Vielight makes such a device designed to pulse at 10 Hz. Cost is around $500. However the LED costs about $3.50 online and the pulser circuit using a 7555 i.c. costs less than $5 in parts so I'm building one. Dr. Rowen's article on the Chinese research can be found at mediclight or google search The device is used for 25 minutes once per day. Green tea has been found to greatly augments its effect.
A similar intranasal device but using an LED of 630nm can be found on ebay. An Israeli company sells one for around $50, the Chinese version "Ostone" is about $20. I suspect both are made in the same Chinese factory. Each has a 5 minute timer but does not pulse. This device is designed to maximize production of the signaling molecule Nitric Oxide in the nasal membranes contributing to dilation of blood vessels throughout the body.
I expect to have the device built in the next week and will report the results.
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Old 11-10-2012, 11:28 AM #5
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Hello,

In February, 2008, I decided to build a helmet for my sister but had difficulty finding 1072 nm LEDs so I used 940 nm LEDs instead. She used this helmet from April through September of 2008.

In May I found a source for 1070 nm LEDs and was told that the primary wave length shifted to about 1072 nm after it was turned on and heated up to 30-35 degrees celsius. I purchased 50 of these LEDs and built a revised helmet that my sister has been using for nearly 7 months. There are two primary problems with this LED. It is very expensive and sells for about $400 each from Marubeni. I was able to get some knocked off the price but I'm not sure of the present supply and price. The other problem is the heat the LED puts out. It is technically 60 diodes put together in a single package and it dissipates a lot of heat. When I powered up the first test of a single LED I only had power to it for 3 seconds and it got so hot I couldn't touch it.

My major design goals were: 1. Control the heat 2. Protect the expensive LEDs and most importantly 3. Make sure I produced a helmet that was absolutely safe for my sister's daily use.

I think I accomplished these goals and the helmet has been working well since Early October. I have several improvements in mind for the next helmet which will hopefully be completed within the next 3-4 months.

I would consider building another helmet for someone under the right circumstances and would be willing to talk to you about it. If you are interested please post a follow up to this message.


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Hi my name is Joyce Mordoh. I just joined Neurotalk and saw you made a helmet for your sister. It is now 2012. How is your sister doing?
Am very interested in her progress. Would be nice if something like this would work.
Hope to hear from you even though it's been a long time since you posted this..
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Help 1072 LED Device

The only place I saw that sells 1072 wave lenght devices for a resonalble 'human' price is Cure Zone Ltd in Canada - you can contact them for a quote. They don't make the helmets but make LED arrays which you hold.

Just google Cure Zone Ltd to find them. I don't know if they ship to US or not.

People that claim that just single LED's of 1072nm cost hundreds each might not be truthfull as the price seemed much much lower at that Canadian online store.

Hope that helps
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:38 AM #7
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Default L.E.D light

Hi John and everyone,
There is another avenue that is less expensive and produces results like the 1072nm lights.

I refer to Quantum Devices NIR lights developed for NASA with DARPA funding. They are located in WI. There is research being conducted using 670nm for Parkinson's.

My mother has Alzheimer's and we have been using the 670nm light on her with noticeable improvements. If we would have had this technology 10 years ago it would have been much better. It seems that reversing the effects of the disease is more profound if the treatment can be started close to the time of diagnosis.

If you go to Quantum Devices page on LED things there is a large amount of clinical research info about NIR light.

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Hey, Guys!

My name is John Christian and I live in Orange Park, Fl, and I'm known in the hair loss forum world (of all places) as the "laser helmet guy".

Without going into detail, I reverse engineered the professional laser clinic devices and I have an site that tells people how to do-it-yourself in helmet form.

Well, I was adopted at birth, always had a "sixth sense" feeling that I was prone to Parkinson's, and I found my biological family two years ago -and, of course, the person I am the most biologically similar to in appearce (my grandfather) had Parkinson's, and he just passed away from it very recently.

With the article here "Low level light therapy proves promising for Parkinson's treatment" article (I can't post links here yet), I am DEFINITELY INTERESTED in constructing a device for this.

I'm only 36 years old -and my grandfather was 82 when he died- but I'm guessing it's pretty much a sure shot of me getting it based on the other genetics, plus sometimes I think I can just "tell", so I want to jump on this NOW, and hopefully it will be enough to completely prevent the disease.

We've been talking about both the dementia article from last year and the recent Parkinson's article, but I've recently read the full study and found that we were a little "off" in our discussion, and it would indeed take 1072nm LEDs or Laser diodes vs. the 810nm mentioned in the Parkinson's study.

Anyway, I know that you guys have already done A LOT with this, so I'm going to be asking a lot of questions in the future, I'm certainly going to take advantage of your info, and I'm going to be figuring out a way to cheaply do this.

I'm only experienced with laser diodes and not LEDs -LEDs are actually a bit trickier because you need capacitor/resistors unless you buy a panel, whereas the laser modules have the circuit board built in on them- but I'm definitely going to build something like this. If it's easier to just buy the completed panel, I'll do that, but if it's literally pennies on the dollar to make your own panel, I think that this is something that I need to learn how to do!

Anyway, thanks for your information, and I'll be around!

-John (O.M.G.)
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There is an Infrared Therapy Helmet that is manufactured in USA. You can read about it at**
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Default 1072nm helmet

I want to make a helmet for my mother who has Alzheimer's. I read in the patent that Dr. Dougal wrote for his device that laser diodes with a frequency of 1064nm could be substituted. Perhaps more affordable? I haven't looked for a source yet.
Has anyone found any of the infrared LEDs at an affordable price?
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I want to make a helmet for my mother who has Alzheimer's. I read in the patent that Dr. Dougal wrote for his device that laser diodes with a frequency of 1064nm could be substituted. Perhaps more affordable? I haven't looked for a source yet.
Has anyone found any of the infrared LEDs at an affordable price?
See the part number 751-1203-ND at the
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People seem to have a hangup with the 1072 nm frequency, rather what you need is infrared, and not an exact frequency. The part above is priced at 100 LEDs @$30, or 500 LEDs @$100. You can even buy 1 LED at $0.55. I've already may some devices.
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