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Old 03-13-2009, 09:34 PM #1
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I have had a terrible week. Probably my worst ever. The cause has been stress coming from my wonderful wife who has been going through multiple crises of great emotion. Yesterday, I was reduced to crawling for most of the day.

Today, I prepared a very simple self-hypnosis recording on my laptop suggesting that while I would still care about how she was feeling that I would no longer have the hypersensitive reaction that I was experiencing to her distress.

I listened to it only one time and the difference this evening is amazing. It underlines the impact of stress but it really makes me wonder what could be accomplished with such a simple tool. With a computer and recording software it is easy to record the basic induction one time. After that it is just a matter of recording two or three minutes of suggestion.
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Hi Rick,
I always felt hypnotism could provide at least a partial improvement. So much so that a couple of years ago, I went to a Harley Street specialist in hypnotism and had at least 5 sessions with him. You may not know about Harley Street, but it is an area in London where the worlds most talented (and expensive ) medical experts are to be found.
I asked him to plant the suggestion that i could walk normally without medication. Although I became more confident, I realised I was kidding myself that I had improved any, and stopped the sessions.
Any improvement I felt, and I suspect also in your case was a placebo effect. Later, I tried self hypnosis, remember you sent me a recording of your script, but again, no sustained improvement.
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Hi Ron and Everett,

I am currently getting physical therapy and biofeedback. Part of the therapy is listening to a tape promoting relaxation. My computer biofeedback tape shows marked improventment in relaxing my pelvic floor muscles. The therapists attributes this to the tape as when I do my exercises, she sees no effect on my base line.

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Hi Rick, I find this very interesting & would like to know where to download or get this? I NEED it, my Mom Needs it!

I'm so sorry that you had such a bad week. Seems to be going around. I do hope things are better for you soon!

Off topic here, I never cared as much as I do now for CLEAN FLOORS! I have actually taken a tooth brush to the corners. lol
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As Ron's case pointed out, it isn't magic and you can't expect to just tell yourself to simply "Take up thy bed..."

But you can control stress with it and that might make a world of difference, both today and tomorrow. Some of the things that I have used it for with undeniable success:
1) Stress control
2) Public speaking
3) Blocking pain
4) Making dental work a breeze
5) Time distortion and claustrophobia - made my last 30 minute MRI seem like five minutes of bliss.
6) Blood pressure control (lasted a few days)

Some things that it might work on but that I haven't attempted yet:
1) Sleeping
2) Manipulation of neurotransmitters
3) Encouraging neurogenesis

I have fooled with it for about twenty years and have gotten the process down to less than five minutes but newcomers might need a longer induction at first. There is a pretty good overview at

http://www.wikihow.com/Perform-Self-Hypnosis

In general, the more intelligent you are the more hypnotizeable you are. Self hypnosis is very safe so long as you are not driving. If you don't bring yourself out of a trance you just start snoring. You are self aware at all times.

What's it like? If you have ever been watching TV and slipped into "zombie" mode, that's it. That's also why television is best avoided.

Some other promising links-
http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_d...id=9752&cn=353

http://stress.about.com/od/tensionta...lehypnosis.htm
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As Ron's case pointed out, it isn't magic and you can't expect to just tell yourself to simply "Take up thy bed..."

But you can control stress with it and that might make a world of difference, both today and tomorrow. Some of the things that I have used it for with undeniable success:
1) Stress control
2) Public speaking
3) Blocking pain
4) Making dental work a breeze
5) Time distortion and claustrophobia - made my last 30 minute MRI seem like five minutes of bliss.
6) Blood pressure control (lasted a few days)

Some things that it might work on but that I haven't attempted yet:
1) Sleeping
2) Manipulation of neurotransmitters
3) Encouraging neurogenesis

I have fooled with it for about twenty years and have gotten the process down to less than five minutes but newcomers might need a longer induction at first. There is a pretty good overview at

http://www.wikihow.com/Perform-Self-Hypnosis

In general, the more intelligent you are the more hypnotizeable you are. Self hypnosis is very safe so long as you are not driving. If you don't bring yourself out of a trance you just start snoring. You are self aware at all times.

What's it like? If you have ever been watching TV and slipped into "zombie" mode, that's it. That's also why television is best avoided.

Some other promising links-
http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_d...id=9752&cn=353

http://stress.about.com/od/tensionta...lehypnosis.htm

Rick: Thanks for the links. I use John Holland's Meditation CD to relax.
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I have wondered about hypnosis. I have found I am quite susceptable to the power of suggestion. -both good and negative. The trick is, you can't doubt, once doubt gets a hold of your suggestions you start thinking new suggestions
and they take hold. It can be a real catch 22. We are over-analytical in our quest for truth. I would like to know who else has tried some form of hypnosis, for whatever ails one. Smoking, swearing, spitting or any other undesirable trait.

Thanks for the links also: hug:
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You raise a good point and an interesting question as well. First of all, the good thing about self hypno is that you can trust yourself unless you are "So mean that I have to hold a gun to my head when I shave."

More seriously, I wonder if PWP are any more suggestible than others, in light of our greater placebo effect?

If so, that could make it an even handier tool.

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I have wondered about hypnosis. I have found I am quite susceptable to the power of suggestion. -both good and negative. The trick is, you can't doubt, once doubt gets a hold of your suggestions you start thinking new suggestions
and they take hold. It can be a real catch 22. We are over-analytical in our quest for truth. I would like to know who else has tried some form of hypnosis, for whatever ails one. Smoking, swearing, spitting or any other undesirable trait.

Thanks for the links also: hug:
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More seriously, I wonder if PWP are any more suggestible than others, in light of our greater placebo effect?

If so, that could make it an even handier tool.

If this were the case, I would like to think that All types of Dementia would benefit. I think my mom will be a good candidate for this & looking forward to trying. If I could just put her in a pleasant state of mind!

Thanks for some new inspiration
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Funny the subject of hypnosis is brought up at this time. Over the past year, I have been studying to become a hypnotist. Next Thursday the 26th I take my certification test.
A few years ago, I felt that simple relaxation techniques would help in relieving tremor, muscle rigidity, and several other problems brought on by PD. I found that relaxation worked for me fairly well. At that point I started looking into hypnosis. It took some time and training for me to be able to go into trance. Like many of you here, I have an analytical mind which makes hypnosis a little more difficult but i assure you it can be achieved. The trick is to confuse the mind and bypass the analytical thinking. It's like anything else we do in life the more you practice the easier it becomes.
Is hypnosis the magic bullet we have all been looking for? Not by a long shot. However, in the past year, i have worked with 12 people with PD. Test subjects if you will. All 12 have at least some improvement in their symptoms. One woman who really had the shuffling gait now walks well enough to do almost anything she wants to do.
Call me crazy, call me a quack, or whatever you want. The results are real.

Hypnosis, it's not for everyone. It seems to work for me and a few others. A cure? No. Some relief? Yes.

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