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Old 03-10-2016, 04:08 PM   #21
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Now this has me wondering since I've been eating more beans and ever and back to the chicken could these be the cause too of the rash on my foot which I can't get rid of...this foot has become quite arthritic and now the rash in the last 3 months or so. ummmmmm

Thanks very much for all this information. I'm familiar with Krispin via Weston Price.
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I am a semiretired biomedical scientist. My colleagues and I have published more than 20 papers with an immunological focus, mainly concerned with innate immunity (the complement system).

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Old 03-10-2016, 07:02 PM   #24
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The plot keeps getting thicker...I found this blog, To Bean or Not To Bean. With pros and cons to eating beans. I've been eating more beans than ever in the last two years or so and more aching joints than ever. Lectins!!!

http://www.jdmoyer.com/2011/02/15/to...-human-health/

So much dietary info out there today to weed thru and to consider for our own health, being aware of how our body feels when we eat certain foods.
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Caroline, what kind of beans are you eating?

Some but not all beans are rich in exogenous lectins - while I doubt that they can enter your blood from your GI tract, potentially leading to systemic effects, if they are not denatured before eating the beans this can lead to unpleasant local GI tract symptoms.

It depends on the kind of bean but usually soaking them overnight and then cooking them well is sufficient to get rid of the exogenous lectins.
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Kiwi, I've been over dosing on all beans in the last 2-3 yrs as I see it now...so I'm going pretty cold turkey off beans and see if I'll feel better joint wise and in general. I make soups pretty often and beans have been a big addition in my soups....so I'll still make soups but eliminate beans....beans are so easy but maybe not that good for many of us.

I don't buy the dry beans, soak them, cook them etc...I buy most of my beans at whole foods and go with that way. Down the road I'll make a kidney bean/ground lamb chili, but not for a while.
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