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Old 08-03-2010, 10:59 PM #1
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Hello everyone, Im a newbie here! So please bear with me. I need help like no other. I will start with my story and take it from there. Back in June I got real sick and thought I may have the flu? Weird I know as its June! But I was fatigue and sick my body ached, I had a bad cough that wouldnt go away. I went to the doctor she said I had a bug of some sort. I started to feel a little okay so went back to work for a few days, by the end of the week I was ready to fall over.
I couldnt breathe, I couldnt talk becuase my throat had got so irritated from coughing I assume? They did blood test of every sort. The news came in that my ANA was positive at 1:160 and it was of a nuecloar pattern?
Doctor ran more test and now its comming back Neg for Lupus and scalderma, Please disregard the mispellings, Im moving pretty fast with typing just to try to get an answer....lol... I recently developed a rash that was small little white heads all over my upper half of body, and my left arm has gotten very heavy feeling with numb finger tips. I told my doctor and she now thinks I may have post nasal drip and an axiexty problem?! I cant believe this, I know the way i feel is not me, I am so confused because she said one thing one week and another the next, I cant get in to rumy till Sept 10th! And Im going crazy, this cant be in my head ... I know what Im feeling and I feel like my doctor thinks its a joke.... PLEASE HELP!!
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Hi- I just wondered how your shoulders feel overall compared to before this happened to you. Your left arm feels heavy to you. Can you lift it over your head? Does it get worse when you do?





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Hello everyone, Im a newbie here! So please bear with me. I need help like no other. I will start with my story and take it from there. Back in June I got real sick and thought I may have the flu? Weird I know as its June! But I was fatigue and sick my body ached, I had a bad cough that wouldnt go away. I went to the doctor she said I had a bug of some sort. I started to feel a little okay so went back to work for a few days, by the end of the week I was ready to fall over.
I couldnt breathe, I couldnt talk becuase my throat had got so irritated from coughing I assume? They did blood test of every sort. The news came in that my ANA was positive at 1:160 and it was of a nuecloar pattern?
Doctor ran more test and now its comming back Neg for Lupus and scalderma, Please disregard the mispellings, Im moving pretty fast with typing just to try to get an answer....lol... I recently developed a rash that was small little white heads all over my upper half of body, and my left arm has gotten very heavy feeling with numb finger tips. I told my doctor and she now thinks I may have post nasal drip and an axiexty problem?! I cant believe this, I know the way i feel is not me, I am so confused because she said one thing one week and another the next, I cant get in to rumy till Sept 10th! And Im going crazy, this cant be in my head ... I know what Im feeling and I feel like my doctor thinks its a joke.... PLEASE HELP!!
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Might be worth looking into: http://sites.google.com/site/jccglut...oimmunedisease

I had some crazy neurological symptoms that took me forever to trace back to a gluten sensitivity caused by Candida. Good luck.
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Please let us know? I truly hope you aren't stuck in a hospital etc...w/all THAT entails!
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I haven't had any new developments other than the rash coming back after my meds for it ran out... this has also got me thinking that there is also something my body is trying to tell me - right? My left arm is still heavy and the tips are still numb, Im still coughing, still clearing the throat - of what idk... and my fatigue is still there. I have the drive just no energy to do anything. Its really weird, I could sleep for 12 hours and have no problems going back to bed for another 4 or 5. ive been test for Lupus, scalderma, lyme, rumitoid along with other idk blood test all came out NEG except ANA positive at 1:160 and she also told me I had a unique pattern of nucleolar - not sure if thats how it is spelled. . . Im grabbing at straws now.
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Autoimmune conditions and diseases have one cause and one cause only, the combination of fructose and a sensitivity-inducing agricultural protein like wheat gluten.

After you have stopped ingesting both substances for about three weeks, if your symptoms aren't substantially eliminated, then get back to me.
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SO you are telling me that Fruits, wheat and milk are bad for me? I'm not lactose intolerant for the milk and whole grain wheat and fruits I thought were supposed to be healthy for you. I eat a well balanced diet and I very very rarely ever eat processed foods, take out or soda. I don't think what I have is a trigger from eating healthy? or could it be...? Anyone open for input?
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Autoimmune disease represents blood borne antibodies attacking antigens, and attacking the tissues affected by the antigens. Such antigens are invariably partially digested food proteins. Antigens commonly enter the bloodstream because the intestines become porous. The intestines become porous because the gut's immune system releases zonulin in response to ingesting wheat gluten. The gut releases zonulin because it thinks ingested gluten is candida albicans fungus. Candida albicans thrives on fructose.

I did not mention lactose. Lactose is a sugar, and has pertinence, but not here.

Autoimmune "conditions" happen in people who have the same zonulin-caused gut permeability as autoimmune "disease" sufferers. Blood borne antigens attack tissue, but the immune system fails to respond. In both autoimmune conditions and autoimmune diseases, the gut floods zonulin into the bloodstream. In the bloodstream zonulin causes antibodies to spill the cytokine TNF alpha. TNF alpha cause other antibodies to release a cascade of Cox and interluken cytokines. These cytokines seek the antigen-affected tissue. They cause inflammation and attract autoimmune reactions. So the inflammatory response is secondary in autoimmune diseases, but primary in autoimmune conditions.

There are exceptions to the "condition" pathway. They involve insulin resistance and the formation of adipose tissue. But this pathway starts with the same cause, gluten and fructose ingestion.

Regardless of what the Department of Agriculture says, eating fruit and grassy grains is unhealthy. It causes autoimmune disease and metabolic syndrome. Eating foods like cheese, eggs, meat, fat, corn, rice and vegetables? ......that's healthy.

http://somvweb.som.umaryland.edu/abs...e%208.2009.pdf
http://www.denvernaturopathic.com/news/celiac.html
http://www.patienthealthyself.info/C...e_Article.html
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I agree with some of what veggienft said in their post. I have first hand experience with this. At the age of 30 I developed an auto-immune induced neurological problem that the doctors were baffled with. They ruled out ALS, MS and Parkinsons but did not know what to diagnose me with. I finally saw a homeopathic doctor in a desperate search for answers. The homeopathic doctor told me to avoid wheat/gluten and dairy as they were the most common developed food sensitivities. I was reluctant to believe that what I had was diet related, but I eventually tried it and was astounded when within a week my symptoms began to improve.

The condition that allows undigested food protiens to be absorbed into your blood stream is actually called 'Leaky Gut Syndrome.' As veggienft said, this is how your immune system becomes confused and starts to attack the wrong parts of your body. Things that should not be in your blood stream are absorbed through a weakened intestinal wall.

The root cause of the weakened intestinal walls is Candida, a fungus that gets out of hand when the helpful bacteria that live in your digestive system can't fight it off. The helpful digestive bacteria are weakened every time we take antibiotics and even when we eat meat that was from animals that were fed antibiotics. Taking probiotics when you have run away Candida won't help either because the Candida won't let it take hold. You have to eliminate the Candida and then replenish your helpful digestive bacteria with probiotics before your intestine walls can heal.

Where I disagree with veggienft is the fruit part. Candida feeds off of sugar, artificial sweeteners, and yes fructose from fruits. However, the fructose from fruits is much less concentrated than the sugars, sweeteners and syrups that are so heavily used in our foods today. It is possible to kill off Candida while responsibly enjoying fruit. I am on a plan now that allows fruit in my diet and I am still able to eliminate the Candida.

In order to adopt a diet that starves the Candida, you need to avoid all sugars, sweeteners, syrups (like high fructose corn syrup). You should avoid fermented foods like cheeses. Avoid all dairy, alcohol, vinegar as well. I adopted what I call a 'caveman diet.' I only eat meat, fish, eggs, rice, fruit and vegetables. Olive oil, coconut oil and canola oil are all good at killing off Candida too so keep those in your diet.

People who develop food sensitivities should also rotate their foods. With a leaky gut, your body will learn to attack anything that it sees often enough. This is part of the reason gluten and dairy are number one in food sensitivities because they are in EVERYTHING. If you eat something, you should avoid it for 96 hours before eating it again. When your body develops antibodies against a food protien, the antibodies only stick around for about 72 hours. If they never see a repeat food, then your body never learns to attack new foods.

Before I knew about my sensitivities, leaky gut, and the rotational diet, I had already become sensitive to gluten, dairy, soy, strawberries, tomatoes and caffiene. Once you clear your body of the foods you are sensitive to, you will know when you eat something that you are sensitive to. Right now you probably have so much of what you are sensitve to in your system, that your body can't catch a break. Its overloaded.

If you take out the number one hitters such as gluten and dairy, and also avoid sugars, alcohol and vinegars, you should notice a difference in a few weeks. Just a warning that Candida die off symptoms are cold or flu-like. The Candida elimination plan I am on recommends that you sweat in a sauna or hot bath 6 days a week while detoxing. The skin is your bodies largest detox organ. If you don't give your body a path to get rid of the excess dead Candida, your kidneys and liver get overloaded and you start to feel sick, like a cold or the flu.

I hope you find this post helpful. Let me know if you have any questions. Like I said, I'm going through the recovery right now. It will take time, but you will feel better if you stick with it.
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You said you had flu-like issues, how long did they last and how long before you started the 'new' stuff?
I ask, because I'd had a pneumonia [started early Dec] that I didn't 'shake until late March, and in April I'd started getting numb . By Mid May I was in the ER, first diagnosed with PN, later, because it kept 'progressing', [by a year] with CIDP...an autoimmune neuropathy. Of course, it's onset/cause is called 'ideopathic'! Since then, I've been diagnosed with at least 2 and possibly an additional 2 more autoimmune issues.
By your 'doctor'? Am I correct in assuming it's your GP? Get thee to make an appointment with a neurologist, w/copies of your other doc's tests in your hands! ASAP! [which means early October if you're lucky and can't get in for a cancellation?] . Mite not hurt to also set up an appt to see a rheumatologist as well, Can't hurt? Best to absolutely zero out many things medical off the 'list of possibles' and go from there-The more of the 'possibles You can get off 'the LIST?' Hey, the better! There are several neuro and rheumatology problems that cross-over so to speak. And neuro problems are soo many and varied? [As are Rheumy ones] that it can scare you silly.
Just keep- at it? While you can! Best to keep trying and get treatments asap rather than end up in the ER in Intensive!
Further? It could be anything some have suggested? Or not at all! Read and learn this site? It's chock full of med terms? But it mite help you zero in on the neuro aspects: http://neuromuscular.wustl.edu/antibody/sneuron.html
Try this for starters? They are diagnostic 'summaries' of v arious neuropathies, then go to the index for other possibles and see if that all helps you zero in on YOUR problem [IF your brain isn't mush after reading it all? ] Then once YOU zero in, there have got to be folks to help you here! Don't be afraid to ask questions-there are many, that we can answer, as we've been 'there'.
Good luck hugs 's & HOPE! - j
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