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Old 12-05-2011, 10:34 AM #11
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I DO feel much better on a very particular diet. About 13 ys ago, I pretty much lost an entire year of my life because I was so exhausted I could barely function. Had to postpone graduate school because I couldn't do anything. I was having ovarian cysts at the time, so thought it was a female thing so kept asking my OBgyn to help.....only to have him pat me on the head and say fatigue was a typical female thing and nothing he could/would help me with.

Long story short, I figured out that carbs were the culprit. I had a diabetes counselor teach me about the diabetes diet (tho I'm not diabetic) and I started a modified version. Low carbs, balanced with proteins and fats, numerous smaller meals......lost weight and got my life back all at once! I've been on that diet ever since, which is frustrating that docs assume I'm "fine" in that regard since I am not as fatigued. But if I were to eat a normal diet, I would be right back there, so I am NOT fine in that regard. NewEndo, the *@#%, said then keep eating lowcarb. Jerk. Explain what's wrong with me that I am Not Normal!!!! (My new FamDoc did test me for the celiac autoantibodies, but I was negative)
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Old 12-05-2011, 01:25 PM #12
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Susie,
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your long abbreviated story. Like you said, people with complicated health issues DO have long stories lol

But we definitely have overlap. I'm fascinated by your story in particular because, although I share health problems with many people, very few have the neurological involvement that I've had. Specifically, my initial symptoms were loss of balance and inability to move my eyes horizontally. One evening, I was driving home and my eyes were moving sluggishly side to side, like I was drunk (wasn't). The next morning, I woke up and walked into a wall. Within 24 hrs, I was seeing double (soon diagnosed as 6th nerve palsy). When I was hospitalized a week later, the nurses thought I was blind because I had to hold the wall to walk because I had NO balance. A month later, I had seizures in the middle of the night and was unconscious and seizing the entire way to the hospital. For the ten days of testing (including MRIs, and later, lumbar punctures), they found no cause. I also had trouble swallowing (in and out of the hosptial), couldn't urinate while in the hospital....peripheral problems that stumped them. Anyway, they gave me high dose steroids IV (solumedrol) in the hospital the second time, and I slowly decreased the steroids once I got out. My neurological problems (balance/eye movement/swallowing) improved on the steroids, started to worsen again at one point when I made another decrease so my neuro had me increase and slow the taper even more.

My main problem, I think, is that my health problems are not constantly with me. Early on, before the medication helped stabilize my health (several months), I noticed that they were related to my monthly cycle: vision/balance problems are more likely to strike around ovulation; my seizures occur during the night in the week before my period (called catamenial epilepsy...maybe related to proportionally greater estrogen, which is excitatory, vs progesterone (which is decreasing at this time), which is inhibitory in the brain). And then, stress exacerbates the symptoms, whereas if things are calm, I'm often fine. That complicates it for doctors, and they don't like that. I have a PhD in a medical science field, so do my own research on this when I'm motivated (ie having problems; when things are ok, I take a break worrying about it). I track my symptoms and try to understand my "triggers".

For example, even on two anti-seizure medications, I still often have problems sleeping the week before my period. So when I had an in-hospital two-day EEG to detect abnormal brain activity years ago and it was during what I consider my "ok" time of the month, it detected nothing. When a new doc ordered a sleep study last month, I was able to schedule it a month in advance for a night when I thought I might be vulnerable.....and sure enough, I had sleep problems!

I did have rashes many years ago, so was close to a lupus diagnosis with the autoantibodies; told I had "Antiphospholipid Syndrome" or something like that. I've also had problems with blue/numb fingers, which come and go (particularly with stress); and dry eyes/mouth, which is Sjogren's Syndrome (just had another SSb positive result, so will be talking to my new doc about this at the end of the month).

Over the last year (I went thru a lot of stress last year, and my health seemed to take another dive, with new problems cropping up), I've had new severe/strange allergic symptoms of no known cause. Several times, I woke up with a puffy face. Depending on severity, it was my eyes and lips, and one time even the skin around my lips (angiodema; I looked it up). I also was experiencing severe rashing on the front of my trunk at night. I tried going to the doc once when my face was swollen but by the time I got in (~10am), the swelling was down so not much for her to say. I did take pics of my trunk; wish I had taken pics of my face. These things haven't happened for about 6 mo tho, so not a major concern right now.

I was trying to find my TPO value, but can't right now. I have a gigantic binder with all my test info over the years; need to organize it better so I can find relevant results!!!

My biggest concerns are two-fold: one, that as soon as stress hits, I crumble. The symptoms resemble dysautonomia in some ways, because the problems are both central and peripheral. And the seizures and sleeping problems that happen in the middle of the night, making me afraid of going to sleep sometimes.

I'm not working right now, but I'm afraid that as soon as I do, the problems will come back. And now that the NewEndo wants to take me off the steroid...! Two moves ago, new docs changed my meds around (both neuro and endo) and I started having seizures again. Once I start having seizures, I lose my driver's license for a period of time.....which is devastating. I do NOT want that to happen again!!
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Let me thank you for telling your story. The siezures have to be awful. I am so sorry for that. It would scare the heck out of me. I think that my neurolgist was thinking that way too with the light thing and weird reactions I was getting when driving, although I did get them also at work, and would have to sit down. She did restrict my driving, only local no driving distances. So that was a slap in the face. I also get dry eyes, mouth, no spit, purple itchy swelling eyelids, I am constantly tired, tired, tired, I push myself every single day. It was a little better on the plaqunel but off of that so I do not know what is what right now. I would sure wonder with the connection between your periods and the reactions you get, that is weird,. I am like you I learned in the beginning of all this to start to journal my feelings every day, right now I have been lax but one needs to do that me for sure because of the short term memory problems I have. (I never use to forget anything, ever).
Could you explain to me the diet you are following. I am interested in that, as I am in the gluten free diet. My problem is I like to bake, lol, so I tell you, it cannot be before Christmas for any new diet.
It sure sounds like you have Raynauds disease. Mine is so much better, for two years it was so bad, one little stresser or cold and they were blue. Do they get bad when you go into the freezer, or grab a cold can of soda? Also I was thinking did you think of going to a rhuemy to see about the possiable lupus, which I beleive can cause siezures also. With the raynauds possiablitys and the shrogens, and the ANA I would certainly go that route too. What would it hurt?
I just wrote for copys of my last tests that confirmed the HE diagnoises for my records, I am like you I try to get all copies of all, so I know what the heck is going on, Sometimes too much information when they call or you are in the office, I need to see it on paper so it makes more sence to me. I also wanted to tell you I have had a lot of swallowing problems too. Had my esphagus dialated twice within a year. Helps for a while but not too long.

I had my second infussion this morning, I have to tell you except for the hot flashes, and a sore throat I have right now, my legs already feel better, I feel like my shoulders do not hurt, or my neck which always hurts, my feet are not so bad, so I can see why people get hooked on preds.

Well going to take a nap did not sleep well last night.

Keep writing,
susie
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:29 PM #13
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What is your infusion, and for what? Interesting.

I've only experienced the "can't lift my legs" symptom once, and I think it was during the time I was weaning off the high dose steroids. I remember literally picking up each leg with my arms and placing them up the next step. Awful.

I haven't seen a rheumatologist in years because I never found them to be helpful for me. Yes, I have a lot of symptoms but they never *treated* them. We'll see what my famdoc says about the Sjogren's when I see her. I've kind of simply tolerated the cold/numb fingers and toes, dry eyes and mouth, etc. over the years because it didn't have a huge "quality of life" impact. However, I've also been on steroids (the cortef) for 8 ys, and going off them might exacerbate all sorts of autoimmune probs, so who knows.

The thing about HE...or any of the autoantibodies.....is that I can't seem to find out how they directly wreck with my brain. In theory, if HE is caused by the TPO antibodies and is responsible for my neurological problems....then I should be able to find literature detailing how and where the TPO proteins are in the brain.....which I can't find. (same with Sjogren's-how do SSb antibodies affect neurological function?) So I don't understand the HOW.

Oh, the diet! Yes, well, over the years I have discovered what works for me and I've been really pretty happy to limit my eating to what works. My reaction to carbs was so extreme-I would get tachycardia or soooo sleepy-that just thinking about, say, ice cream can make me feel sleepy. So over the years, I worked out the diet that works for me. I start with a low-carb drink shake (NOT the normal diet drinks because they made me sleepy too! I look at the carb content vs protein content. The lower the carb content the better) and coffee (I drink a LOT-I guess that also helps me feel not so fatigued... self-medicating!). A few hours later, I have a low-carb bar (very few don't make me sleepy-I stick with the Zone Perfect bars). However, snacks like pretzels with cheese work, too. Carbs combined with fat and/or protein. For lunch, I had the SAME thing for years.....veggie quesadillas from the frozen section. For dinner I make my own quesadilla (or without the quesadilla.....just mix it up) with a frozen veggie/beans mix, chicken, cheese, and low-sugar Thai peanut sauce (some sauces are too sweet for me; there's only one I can use). I also strangely crave popcorn, but I use a LOT of oil and salt, so maybe I'm craving it because of a dietary need.

On this diet, I lost weight and felt great. I cannot eat "normally" without feeling like crud.

I use cheese for a lot of things. My dh tells me fat is bad, blahblahblah, but my total cholesterol is even below normal, with high good cholesterol. It is NOT my problem!

Please share your results when you get them!
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What is your infusion, and for what? Interesting.

I've only experienced the "can't lift my legs" symptom once, and I think it was during the time I was weaning off the high dose steroids. I remember literally picking up each leg with my arms and placing them up the next step. Awful.

I haven't seen a rheumatologist in years because I never found them to be helpful for me. Yes, I have a lot of symptoms but they never *treated* them. We'll see what my famdoc says about the Sjogren's when I see her. I've kind of simply tolerated the cold/numb fingers and toes, dry eyes and mouth, etc. over the years because it didn't have a huge "quality of life" impact. However, I've also been on steroids (the cortef) for 8 ys, and going off them might exacerbate all sorts of autoimmune probs, so who knows.

The thing about HE...or any of the autoantibodies.....is that I can't seem to find out how they directly wreck with my brain. In theory, if HE is caused by the TPO antibodies and is responsible for my neurological problems....then I should be able to find literature detailing how and where the TPO proteins are in the brain.....which I can't find. (same with Sjogren's-how do SSb antibodies affect neurological function?) So I don't understand the HOW.

Oh, the diet! Yes, well, over the years I have discovered what works for me and I've been really pretty happy to limit my eating to what works. My reaction to carbs was so extreme-I would get tachycardia or soooo sleepy-that just thinking about, say, ice cream can make me feel sleepy. So over the years, I worked out the diet that works for me. I start with a low-carb drink shake (NOT the normal diet drinks because they made me sleepy too! I look at the carb content vs protein content. The lower the carb content the better) and coffee (I drink a LOT-I guess that also helps me feel not so fatigued... self-medicating!). A few hours later, I have a low-carb bar (very few don't make me sleepy-I stick with the Zone Perfect bars). However, snacks like pretzels with cheese work, too. Carbs combined with fat and/or protein. For lunch, I had the SAME thing for years.....veggie quesadillas from the frozen section. For dinner I make my own quesadilla (or without the quesadilla.....just mix it up) with a frozen veggie/beans mix, chicken, cheese, and low-sugar Thai peanut sauce (some sauces are too sweet for me; there's only one I can use). I also strangely crave popcorn, but I use a LOT of oil and salt, so maybe I'm craving it because of a dietary need.

On this diet, I lost weight and felt great. I cannot eat "normally" without feeling like crud.

I use cheese for a lot of things. My dh tells me fat is bad, blahblahblah, but my total cholesterol is even below normal, with high good cholesterol. It is NOT my problem!

Please share your results when you get them!
Yes i will, let you know what the test results were. I am getting a methlpredisone, I think that is how you say it IV infussion. 1,000mg per day for five days and then six days taper oral this is for the HE. I take the Imuran for the myositis, myopathy, sclero,lupus and others.

I did read researching HE is that it attacks the neurons in the brain. I do not believe the tests tell them how,or why just that with the matter of elimination of other causes and the high test results and the symptoms will be how they make the dx, at least that is how I understood it, but I am not the best and inturpating (or spelling) lol, but it does make sence that the antibodys from the hashimotos disease attacks the brain neurons along with the thyroid its self. Which can eventually distroy the thyoid as well as brain cells.
I have to say I crave popcorn and salt all the time and always have. But since my colitis has been so bad, even popcorn bothers me, along with alot of vegs, or dairy so I am kind of inbetween a rock and a hardplace with my diet.

I hope you get some answers soon. I wish you lived close to me i would share my wonder doctors with you.

susie
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