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Melody,
I can only comment on the relationship between psoriasis and psoriatic Arthritis.

Both of my husband's adult daughter and adult son had psoriasis for several years. About 5 or 6 years ago her fingers started swelling; especially her "little finger"was almost always in a permanent painful swelling . She went to a specialist dealing with Arthritis. He put her on a daily dose of Celebrex. She has been on it for the past 5 years. It has been helping her and she was able to get back to playing tennis. I don't remember what his son is taking for his psoriatic arthritis. Evidently there is definitely a relationship between the two.


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Melody,
I can only comment on the relationship between psoriasis and psoriatic Arthritis.

Both of my husband's adult daughter and adult son had psoriasis for several years. About 5 or 6 years ago her fingers started swelling; especially her "little finger"was almost always in a permanent painful swelling . She went to a specialist dealing with Arthritis. He put her on a daily dose of Celebrex. She has been on it for the past 5 years. It has been helping her and she was able to get back to playing tennis. I don't remember what his son is taking for his psoriatic arthritis. Evidently there is definitely a relationship between the two.


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Hi Gerry:

Alan took Celebrex many years ago. Landed him in intensive care, they thought he had Rocky Mountain spotted fever, almost killed him. He was covered from head to toe in spots. His face blew up, his whole body blew up. They moved him to quarantine. The hazmat people came in wearing their hazmat suits. I tried telling them "HE TOOK CELEBREX, GIVE HIM BENEDRYL". No one listened to me. They were examining him, etc. etc. Guess what? After 6 days, the doctor walked in (after NUMEROUS blood tests that came out as if he had no calcium in his body and the doctor scratched his head and said "this is nonsense, if he had no calcium in his body, he'd be dead", we think it's an allergic reaction to the celebrex and we are giving him benedryl". Whenever we go to doctors or to the hospital, as soon as they ask him "What are you allergic to?" he says "Celebrex, sulfites, sulfa drugs, bird urine.l...yeah, that's right, anything with urea".

And guess what I've been reading up on "What can possibly cause psoriasis and how to treat it" and you will never guess what is up on youtube'. There are videos with people feeling that all these things are actually caused by the Candida Albicans. They even show you how to test your body for candida. You wake up in the morning, take a half glass of water, spit into it and watch and see how your spit looks in 45 minutes. You do this for 6 days. If the spit sinks or has legs, you are full of yeast. So guess what we are doing tomorrow morning??? you got it.

Oh, one more thing. The same people who say it's all from yeast (they say ALL diseases come from fungi of which yeast is..... they feel that a few drops of H202 Food grade hydrogen peroxide, taken in distilled water, will kill and eliminate all candida from the body. there is so much info on this on the internet, I don't know what to believe. I do know that food grade is completely different from the little brown bottle of hydrogen peroxide we all have in the house. They are saying use the 3 percent food grade hydrogen peroxide but be very careful. Just a drop or two in a quart of distilled water. I'm still trying to gather info on exactly what the ratio is and if anyone knows or has tried this to get rid of whatever is ailing you, I'd love to hear it. I believe Alan has all this yeast in his gut and being on the diet he is now on is very good, it will take a long time. If this H202 is for real, well, we're not doing it yet, but I am taking this very seriously. Will update if anything on his body changes. Believe me, I will tell you all. Take care
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" a few drops of H202 Food grade hydrogen peroxide, taken in distilled water, will kill and eliminate all candida from the body"

I am not sure that this would be of much benefit.

Hydrogen peroxide is produced in the body by natural processes. It can be toxic through production of Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS). ROS can lead to oxidative damage to body cells. Because of this it is rapidly broken down into water and oxygen by a body enzyme called catalase.
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" a few drops of H202 Food grade hydrogen peroxide, taken in distilled water, will kill and eliminate all candida from the body"

I am not sure that this would be of much benefit.

Hydrogen peroxide is produced in the body by natural processes. It can be toxic through production of Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS). ROS can lead to oxidative damage to body cells. Because of this it is rapidly broken down into water and oxygen by a body enzyme called catalase.
Let me ask you a question. Why are there people on youtube who swear by this stuff (food grade Hydrogen Peroxide)? I mean, one guy said 'people, my psoriasis was completely gone in one week", go and buy this stuff but take care, your body has to get used to it. Don't over do it. Start with a few drops".

I watched this video, then went online and found out all the negative stuff about it.

Actually I am so confused right now, I don't know what to think.

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Melody, hydrogen peroxide is sometimes used as a disinfectant because it is a strong oxidising agent. Some people use it to treat skin wounds because it may kill bacteria in those wounds. This is controversial - the third page in this link discusses this; http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/456300.

I don't know whether or not it, applied to the skin, may help with psoriasis - a PubMed search does not say much either way. This articles is interesting - it suggests that manuka honey (a good NZ product!) may help with psoriasis, possibly because it can produce hydrogen peroxide; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24305429.

I doubt that taking a small amount (a few mL; taking more could be toxic) of hydrogen peroxide by mouth will be of any use, for two reasons. It will rapidly get diluted into the ~30-40 litres of water in the human body to the extent that it will have no effect. Also, it will rapidly be inactivated by catalase, which is a very active enzyme; one molecule of it can break down five million molecules of hydrogen peroxide every minute
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Melody, hydrogen peroxide is sometimes used as a disinfectant because it is a strong oxidising agent. Some people use it to treat skin wounds because it may kill bacteria in those wounds. This is controversial - the third page in this link discusses this; http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/456300.

I don't know whether or not it, applied to the skin, may help with psoriasis - a PubMed search does not say much either way. This articles is interesting - it suggests that manuka honey (a good NZ product!) may help with psoriasis, possibly because it can produce hydrogen peroxide; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24305429.

I doubt that taking a small amount (a few mL; taking more could be toxic) of hydrogen peroxide by mouth will be of any use, for two reasons. It will rapidly get diluted into the ~30-40 litres of water in the human body to the extent that it will have no effect. Also, it will rapidly be inactivated by catalase, which is a very active enzyme; one molecule of it can break down five million molecules of hydrogen peroxide every minute

You make a lot of sense. Thanks much. Went to the urologist today and I told him all about the diet we are doing. The Anti-Candida diet. I said that I thought THAT was causing all of Alan's skin problems. He looked at me and said 'You got that right". I just looked at him. So we purchased good probiotics (anti-candida diets say to use this). So together with my sprouts and greens that I grow and no refined sugars of any kind (thank god this man likes my sprouts), and probiotics, we shall see eventually if we are on the good road.

Believe me, if this doesn't work, nothing will because we have tried it. Except for those biologics which he won't go near because when we listen to the commercials and they go into all the side effects, Alan would yell at the tv "I'd rather have psoriasis".

So we shall see. Thanks much

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Melody, sprouts and greens are great foods and avoiding refined sugar is also a good plan. Probiotics could help as well.

A thought about manuka honey; I use it topically whenever I have a skin lesion which looks infected - it works for me.

It is something that Alan could consider for his psoriasis (the link that I posted above suggests that it can help). You might be able to buy it from a health food shop. One things to watch out for is how pure it is - this is usually based on counting the pollen grains in it - manuka pollen has a characteristic shape - a quality product will tell you about this.
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