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10-20-2009, 10:04 PM | #1 | |||
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Hi,
I saw the Internist today. Back in July she told me to go to the lab and come back in a month ( -- I am following my own time line ) I had gone to the lab for blood work about 3 weeks ago. Today I told her about --depression --a neuro symptom or two that I don't want to talk about here at the moment She has twice now (out of the three times I've seen her), recommend a psychiatrist nearby. I told her I have one already. When she heard about my sleep problem today she thought that Seroquel might work. My meds (Klonopin and Verapamil) don't make sense to her for bipolar. I explained that I have have a sleep phobia (and hence the Klonopin). It's hard explaining things to people. She did mention that the depression might be hormonal and that she could test hormones but I think I might go to the gyn for that. She was very kind. Overall I felt good about seeing her. But I'm amazed that docs (the hospital neuro wanted to write a script too) are happy to throw med suggestions at me. Blood work showed that vitamin D is very low. She said to take 1000 per day. I reminded her that it interferes with the Verapamil. She said to take the D at a different time. I think I read that vit D can affect mood. I need to read more about that. M. |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | Dmom3005 (10-17-2010) |
10-20-2009, 10:25 PM | #2 | |||
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seroquel can be useful for sleep and agitation/anxiety if used during the day.
somehow it is being marketed for treating depression which I don't understand that at all. I am glad you like your internist. yes doctors like to prescribe stuff. bizi
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10-20-2009, 10:45 PM | #3 | |||
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...seroquel_N.htm
not happy about the risks for diabetes.... I think they said it could be used as an add on if your antidepressant was not working.... kind of like adding on abilify.....strictly for depression.... but lots of people take it to sleep at night.
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. Hattie the black and white one wrestling with hazel, calico. lost hattie to cancer..... Happiness is a decision.... 150mg of lamictal 2x a day haldol 5mg 2x a day 1mg of cogentin 2x a day klonipin , 1mg at night I will not give up in this weight loss journey, nor this need to be AF. 3-19-13=156, 6-7-13=139, 8-19-13=149, 11-12-13=140, 6-28-14=157, 7-24-14=149, 9-24-14=144, 1-12-15=164, 2-28-15=149, 4-21-15=143, 6-26-15=138.5, 7-22-15=146, 8-24-15=151, 9-15-15=145, 11-1-15=137, 11-29-15=143, 1-4-16=152, 1-26-16=144, 2-24-16=150, 8-15-16=163, 1-4-17=169, 9-20-17=174, 11-17-17=185.6, 3-22-18=167.9, 8-31-18= 176.3, 3-6-19=190.8 5-30-20=176, 1-4-21=202, 10-4-21= 200.8,12-10-21=186, 3-26-22=180.3, 7-30-22=188, 10-15-22=180.9, |
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10-20-2009, 11:28 PM | #4 | |||
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Bizi,
I think she was suggesting to take Seroquel for sleep. She even said that it was not an anti-depressant. I wish mdocs would yield to pdocs when it comes to meds. And I wish that they would honor our decisions. She talked about how maybe I might need to be on better meds. I probably do. But I have a pdoc of about 7 years that will work with me IF I tell him to adjust something. Can't she just let it rest? Does she question her other patients about their specialists? And my sleep issue is life long. Another new med is not going to make a bit of difference -- except to cause more anxiety by talking to me about it. M. |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | bizi (10-21-2009) |
10-21-2009, 02:05 PM | #5 | |||
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i would let you pdoc advise / propose it, ESPECIALLY because he is also a neuro and might be able to help peel apart what could be from depression and what is not. obviously i cannot comment since i do not know what these mysterious sx are.
as for Seroquel, i took it and didn't care for it. - link with diabetes (about the same as zyprexa) - weight gain (not as bad as zyprexa) - SLEEP DISTURBANCES (like you need those!) your mdoc is obviously not up on meds for bipolar if she doesn't understand your meds because Verapamil is recognized as a mood stabilizer. she clearly does not know that even though it is in the dang literature. Klonopin is often given for anxiety, to aid sleep, and as a coadjuvant in mood stabilization. the only thing you don't have on board is an AD and we all know those should be taken only if really needed. so now i come back around to the only person who could evaluate this / propose it is your psych. i didn't think it was a bad idea to talk with your mdoc about this stuff, since you had the appt anyway, but the outcome would indicate to me she lacks the necessary knowledge about the diversity of bipolar presentation as well as meds, and does not seem to be "getting" your sleep thing either. i really would see your pdoc/neuro. and talk about these neuro sx with him AS WELL as the depression and see what he thinks. he may OR MAY NOT propose other meds, or a change in meds. if he does, you can choose to go with it or you can tell him you don't feel comfortable. and hopefully he will be ok with that. i think you can gain - at least some perspective on your situation - by having a talk with him. he has the right preparation and as you said, will work with you. you might start out letting him know you are not really up for new meds, but are having neuro and psych issues and would like to see what he thinks of your situation, and whether he has suggestions. i don't mean to poopoo your mdoc... she may be good for other things but if she doesn't 'get' your current treatment... then... hello? Verapamil IS known as a mood stabilizer for bipolar where other meds don't work, duh. i'm not in a great mood here, forgive the tone. feeling cruddy. ((( hugs ))) ~ waves ~ from the darkness |
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10-21-2009, 02:13 PM | #6 | |||
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seroquel turned me into a zombie-it didn't help my sleep
i take vitamin d but read that have even done tests with 40,000. I take a few thousand and it supposedly takes months to work. I am trying some homeopathic combinations. I think they are giving me four hours of straight sleep...I just started. I got desperate. I got them from 1-800-homeopathy bobby |
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10-22-2009, 10:13 AM | #7 | |||
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She was on insulin a month after they stopped it, I guess the infection kept the reading high too. If on this med, I think a weekly blood sugar should be done and watch for symptoms. I would tell the doctor she always had a drink in her hand and two nearby, no matter where we went. She would also hit every water fountain. Feel better Di I gave up on the sleep phobic, three of us here have a plan for one to be awake while the other sleeps, that at least gives me 5 hrs in a row sleep;
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10-24-2009, 12:19 AM | #8 | |||
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. Hattie the black and white one wrestling with hazel, calico. lost hattie to cancer..... Happiness is a decision.... 150mg of lamictal 2x a day haldol 5mg 2x a day 1mg of cogentin 2x a day klonipin , 1mg at night I will not give up in this weight loss journey, nor this need to be AF. 3-19-13=156, 6-7-13=139, 8-19-13=149, 11-12-13=140, 6-28-14=157, 7-24-14=149, 9-24-14=144, 1-12-15=164, 2-28-15=149, 4-21-15=143, 6-26-15=138.5, 7-22-15=146, 8-24-15=151, 9-15-15=145, 11-1-15=137, 11-29-15=143, 1-4-16=152, 1-26-16=144, 2-24-16=150, 8-15-16=163, 1-4-17=169, 9-20-17=174, 11-17-17=185.6, 3-22-18=167.9, 8-31-18= 176.3, 3-6-19=190.8 5-30-20=176, 1-4-21=202, 10-4-21= 200.8,12-10-21=186, 3-26-22=180.3, 7-30-22=188, 10-15-22=180.9, |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | Mari (10-24-2009) |
10-24-2009, 12:35 AM | #9 | |||
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I'd just like to make an observation. The fact that the Internist is making this drug suggestion is problematic for me.
This means that the drug salespeople are doing what the SSRI sales people did... convincing non-psychiatric specialists to use these drugs for other purposes. This Seroquel for "sleep" has appeared on the PN board too. That is like using Haldol for sleep. The atypical antipsychotics are the SAME ...they can cause tardive, and we now know they kill elderly people with strokes, and cause diabetes. Risperdal causes pituitary tumors in young people! Not safe IMO for sleep. So consider the sales push on your doctor. Chances are the internist has no clue!
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10-16-2010, 08:06 PM | #10 | ||
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Dear bizi & diMarie:
This drug Seroquel... and another called Zyprexa are SO BAD that sick patients have joined up to take class-action lawsuits against the manufacturers. The "class-action lawsuits against Seroquel and Zyprexa are easily found by Googling them. Zyprexa, in particuclar has caused thousands of patients massive, fast weight gain, leading eventually to diabetes. The manufacturer, Eli Lilly, has recently settled in the U.S. for $1 billion, and in Canda a settlement is nearly finished for something around $111 million. I was given Zyprexa in 1993, allegedly for "anger control." What it did was cause me to gain 45 lbs in two months. I did not become diabetic, but I have dieted and exercised my weight gain down by 30 lbs, but that final 15 lbs just will not go away! I am SO angry at the doctor for giving me this without any warning about the likely side effect of weight gain. My neighbour has been on a massive dose of Seroquel for a long time, and he looks and acts like a zombie all the time. This can't be good. I thing all users of Seroquel or Zyprexa should look up the existing class-action lawsuits and join them. Might as well get some compensation for the damage these drugs do.
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