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11-21-2009, 07:29 PM | #1 | |||
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Dear Waves, One guess is that you woke up feeling this way, so it was not the activity of the day, although the activities you describe sound like a problem for certain days. If this is close to Valium's half life, then you might have been near the four day mark of the half life (and these half lives vary considerable from person to person (if I remember right about how this works). Also, you say you are reducing by 5%-10%. Maybe some of the cuts / tapers are going to need 5% rather than 10%. And maybe sometimes the cuts need to be further apart than the 1-2 weeks suggested. If this cut was hard, then maybe go 3 weeks until the next one. Some thoughts: Any chance that you would benefit from dosing twice a day instead of once a day? Perhaps you already do that. The internet instructions (consensus?) are to stay at a decrease once you have made the decrease. But go by what your body mind is telling you. You can go back up to the last dose and sit there awhile if you need to. There are some meds that might be able to help you according to this abstract: http://journals.lww.com/psychopharma...tinuing.3.aspx Quote:
It's hard to assess against the day you had. So wait one or two more days to decide if it was the cut that caused the day. Here's what my pdoc did when I messed up a Xanax taper (without checking with him first): He put me on higher my original starting dose for four days. . . . . not saying you will need to do that. . . . just showing you how my pdoc handled it. You'll have to see how you feel tomorrow to know what happened today. M. |
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11-21-2009, 08:03 PM | #2 | |||
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It's hard to tell. I've been through things like that,and sometimes it's impossible to time,or know what to do.
I decided to slowly withdraw from Xanax years ago,and I did it very,very slowly over a long period of time,in which I felt comfortable to do it. After about four months I was down to a tiny piece. My anxiety kicked back in slowly,and then hit me real hard. I was out of town,and when I got home,I felt like I was having a heart attack. My friends drove me to my parents house. My parents called my Pdoc,and he put me on a strong dose of Xanax,and the pain went away,and I felt better. Unfortunately I had panic attacks for several months. My parents let me stay there for six months. It was a awful experience. Everyone around me didn't know what to do,or say. I had obsessions also that where increasing. I made a mistake in trying to get off of my medication. I was filled with emotion about it. Please be careful. I don't want you to go through what I went through. BF |
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11-21-2009, 09:58 PM | #3 | |||
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Dear Mari & Steve,
thank you both for your posts... much food for thought. i was in the middle of replying to you Mari but got a chance to chat with someone live... so did that. and now it's 4am... past my imaginary bedtime... lol. anyway, i will answer you both tomorrow! ~ waves ~ whose eyelids are drooping |
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11-21-2009, 11:14 PM | #4 | |||
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11-22-2009, 12:12 PM | #5 | ||||||||
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Dear Mari,
First, thank you for all your thoughts and suggestions and persepectives! Lots to chew on... wow. Quote:
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hmmm.... Anyway, I appreciate you sharing all this and will keep ALL of it in mind. what is even somewhat working now may not necessarily later, so it is good to have all your suggestions. ~ waves ~ |
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11-22-2009, 01:57 PM | #6 | |||||
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I met a guy who was being detoxed from Xanax when i was in the clinic and he too was in pretty bad shape. Quote:
Luckily what i am on is not quite as difficult as Xanax... even though it is pretty potent, it is also very very long acting (Xanax is very very short acting). Also, its availability in drops makes it so you can cut back by a tiny proportion at a time. Quote:
~ waves ~ |
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11-23-2009, 10:15 AM | #7 | |||
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doing much better today nerves-wise. i think what is also happening is, recently, my sleep wrapped around and i have been waking up about the same time as the parents, or after them. more often, i am awake long before they are, or i wake up after they have gone out.
the thing is, when i wake up i like to have peace and quiet for a while. that has always been the case - normal for me. like i can watch tv and stuff but i will have it on a really low volume - which i can hear well, provided no ambient noises interfere. or if i listen to music, it has to be pretty soft, gentle music, in the morning, and low volume. NO THRASH METAL!!! the parents are like, from full off, to full on. so, if they are here and awake or waking, when i am waking up, no peace and quiet during the time i am still coming to grips with my senses. anyway. problem today is can't get butt in gear to get the stuff i need done. and i'm worrying about it too. i keep trying to argue myself out the door, but it isn't working. this is part of my action block and i don't know what that is about. i know lately it has been less, but today is not one of those days. i have decided to can my exploratory mission to the little shop here, and go straight to the one in the city as i have to go half way there anyway, just to get another thing done. the cost is not much more. i would still have time to get ready and catch the next bus... i think that would be in time to make it back for dinner and not get people mad. but i have sub-zero inclination. i will shoot for tomorrow i guess. i can't remember if the shop in the city is open all day or if they close in the middle. here things close for like 2-3 hours. i think they close. maybe i can find their phone number and call to get their hours. that would at least be something.... thank you all for listening.... ~ waves ~ who is stuffing her face |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | Brokenfriend (11-24-2009) |
11-23-2009, 10:40 AM | #8 | |||
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I hope you can find their phone number so that you can plan the outing better. I would hate for you to go to all of the trouble to get there and then they are closed.
The kitties are fighting at times youngest hattie is such a bully she bites hazel's( yearling) ears and hazel cries....cats will be cats, they play fight like this all day. chase each other around they really get along well until hattie gets too worked up and really goes after hazel and fur goes flying. Harriet (11 yera old) just sleeps most of the day ......just thought I would share this with you...hope you don't mind. bizi
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. Hattie the black and white one wrestling with hazel, calico. lost hattie to cancer..... Happiness is a decision.... 150mg of lamictal 2x a day haldol 5mg 2x a day 1mg of cogentin 2x a day klonipin , 1mg at night I will not give up in this weight loss journey, nor this need to be AF. 3-19-13=156, 6-7-13=139, 8-19-13=149, 11-12-13=140, 6-28-14=157, 7-24-14=149, 9-24-14=144, 1-12-15=164, 2-28-15=149, 4-21-15=143, 6-26-15=138.5, 7-22-15=146, 8-24-15=151, 9-15-15=145, 11-1-15=137, 11-29-15=143, 1-4-16=152, 1-26-16=144, 2-24-16=150, 8-15-16=163, 1-4-17=169, 9-20-17=174, 11-17-17=185.6, 3-22-18=167.9, 8-31-18= 176.3, 3-6-19=190.8 5-30-20=176, 1-4-21=202, 10-4-21= 200.8,12-10-21=186, 3-26-22=180.3, 7-30-22=188, 10-15-22=180.9, |
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11-23-2009, 11:22 AM | #9 | |||
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I sooooo do not mind. Quite the opposite! I miss having cats! I enjoy hearing your "cat-tales"
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I once lived with a kitten who, just introduced and maybe 8 weeks old? used to literally chase and assault a very tranquil but long and lanky 6mo old male... who was already established in the household. like, territory? what's yours is mine, and what's mine is mine, and your tail is mine too... hey, it moves, *bat, bat, swat* ... The "poor" older kitten would just move his tail, change seat... in general try to stay out of the way... even go hide... with the odd vocalized complaint. the little one used to set up ambushes ... steal up on the couch and wait for him to walk underneath then, pounce down on him, fangs and claws flared! She was agrrrrrrrrrrressive, boy! You know, she climbed up my legs *through* my jeans when i was getting their food once. can you say OUCHY OUCHY OUCHY OUCHY OWWWWWWWWWCHEEEEEEE!!!!! and, thank goodness i was wearing full length jeans, for i doubt bare legs would have made any difference to her! yes cats will be cats. gotta love 'em. and you can find quite some characters... like people. ~ waves ~ |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | bizi (11-23-2009), Brokenfriend (11-24-2009) |
11-23-2009, 11:37 AM | #10 | |||
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I'd love to respond, but my head has gone for a six together with my body, so I can't concentrate enough to get into even the tiniest details.
I hope thiongs work out OK. Love to everybody.
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