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Jen29 06-13-2010 06:40 PM

Thanks for the info, guess i won't be taking that because am not just on a MAOI, am also on tylenol with codeine and benzos right now so from what webmd says it can cause reactions.
I can't take the not sleeping anymore though, i don't know what to do. I am so at a loss right now.

waves 06-13-2010 07:00 PM

zykes, yes, benzos and codeine too... bad idea becomes worse idea... :(

i'm sorry Jen... i wish i had some ideas for you instead of just sitting here being the bearer of bad news. :(

i honestly don't feel comfortable suggesting even herbal remedies - it is harder to find out about interactions, and also if they are strong enough to cause sedation, they can be strong enough to be a problem with your other meds too, you know?

do the best you can to stay sane. get as much rest as you can even without sleeping. do you ever meditate, or do breathing exercises? not to help you sleep i mean, but these things might help you feel better in spite of not sleeping is my thinking here... :o

:hug:

~ waves ~ so relieved that you are not going to take the diphenhydramine...

bizi 06-13-2010 09:45 PM

hi jen,
I hope that you are able to rest tonight.
not sleeping is a common problem, you are not alone.
bizi

Mari 06-14-2010 02:56 AM

HI
 
Sending you lots of good sleep vibes.

M.

Jen29 06-14-2010 03:17 AM

now am tempted to take those pills. I know rationally shouldn't, but am too emotional. It's 3:22 and got maybe 45 min. of sleep.
Worth it or not??

Mari 06-14-2010 08:53 AM

Dear Jen,
You can call your doc and let him know that you need sleep more than the Nardil. . . . just a thought.

M.

Jen29 06-14-2010 10:34 AM

Thanks everyone for your support.
I have already went there with my pdoc. he said he won't help me because I have a sleep specialist. My sleep specialist is sending me to an insomnia specialist but don't see him till 24th so have to just be like this.
Oh well, I will quit complaining.
Sorry
jen

waves 06-14-2010 02:04 PM

Hi Jen

please don't worry about complaining. we can still listen, even if we can't fix it. your pdoc doesn't want to script anything and i can appreciate that, but he is still involved because the meds the meds he has you on affect anything else that might be prescribed by any other doc, including the sleep specialists he is banking on.

Mari has a point in that the Nardil is probably the worst interaction as far as taking an OTC sleep aid concurrently, and you are running out of gas here. it may be worth it to call your pdoc and tell him that you are breaking down and the MAOI severely limits other medication you can take so you want to suspend it for a while.

you would not be asking him to script anything, only to advise if you can safely suspend the Nardil (he may want you to taper it), and if so how much time should you wait before it is reasonably safe to take diphenhydramine - for instance. (standard wait period is 14 days.)

and even if you don't do any of this, please feel free to complain to us! :o

~ waves ~

Mari 06-14-2010 02:18 PM

Dear Jen, :hug:


Quote:

Originally Posted by waves (Post 664642)
you would not be asking him to script anything, only to advise if you can safely suspend the Nardil (he may want you to taper it), and if so how much time should you wait before it is reasonably safe to take diphenhydramine - for instance. (standard wait period is 14 days.)


Yes, you could just sort of tell him that you want to taper off the Nardil so that you can allow the insomnia specialist to have medication options.

In the meantime, while you wait for the specialist's appointment on the 24th:
It seems to me that getting a few minutes more of sleep at night is more important than the Nardil. This depends on what you feel are your greatest needs.

M.

Jen29 06-14-2010 02:32 PM

i did just call and leave a message. I don't know if he will call back or not. He usually does but when I have called lately he doesn't call me back. He told me when i have seen him he only has one other patient on Nardil.
I don't even know what to do right now. I can't think straight. I am and have been hallucinating for weeks and he knows that, but does he even think to try anything or see what can be done...NO.
I suppose I can try and find a new pdoc, but would have to travel out of town. I am not even supposed to drive because i can't see straight cause of lack of sleep. But I can try and see if I can use my mom's car when and if I can get an appointment with someone else. I really don't know what to do anymore.
Maybe should just ask him for a referral, but I have been on every medication at least SSRI wise and they all didn't work. I have done the best of the Nardil except for the sleep, and am talking about my mood, but now it has gone downhill so fast that I am I don't even know. I am not planning on anything, just lots of thoughts.
Maybe the break of no one being home for almost 4 days and no dog no nothing will do me some good. I am supposed to see my T on wednesday but don't know if i will or not. i know in my head i should, it's just gettint to hard to deal with. too close to things that hurt and i don't like it.
anyways, so i called and we'll see if he even returns my call, am not banking on it.


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