Awww thanks Beth, that made me feel so good to hear. :)

Thanks waves, I really appreciate it. The situation isn't resolving yet, but hopefully soon we'll have our answers...What a headache! Luckily though the migraine went away, then the next day, Thursday I think, I had a shadow migraine where the one was the day before, but yesterday NO headache or shadows, and today so far so good. I think it was menstral related. I hate getting older....:(

Dear Pam

i get menstrual migraines too but they started when i was 17. my mom says they might go away after menopause! :eek: she says since she went through menopause she has hardly had any headaches, those she has had were with a precise and easily identifiable cause... i guess there can be fringe benefits to aging :o:rolleyes:

recently a pharmacist asked me if i'd ever been suggested magnesium, and that it can prevent or reduce menstrual migraines, by taking supplementation for 10 days before menses. i usually take magnesium but i didn't have a very good source until recently and i've not been using it for other reasons so i can't say if it "works." but what is interesting is for a while, i had stopped taking any supplement whatsoever - and my migraines got worse/more frequent. so i thought you might like to try that.

:hug::hug::hug:

~ waves ~

Thanks waves, I'll talk to my doc soon. I go in in a month so that will be on my list of things to bring up. :)

I feel so depressed right now. I just want to sleep but Jackie is home sick so that's not happening. I really hate things right now. I just hate it. :( I feel l like life is always gonna be this hard, and I hate it. Wishing things would get better, surely they will, in time, but for now its still a daily struggle. :(

(((((( :heartthrob: Pam :heartthrob: ))))))

Oh dear pammie,
I am sorry that life is being hard on you right now.
I wish it were easier for you.
HOw is jack supporting you in general?
Is he holding up his share of work?
PM if you want to talk about it, none of my business just concerned for you.
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

So I found a great alternative to smoking cigarettes and Jack is gonna use it to stop smoking cigars, Mom on the other hand is still smoking mini cigars and freakin' inhaling on them at ten times the rate Jack smokes them. I am really depressed about it because we offered to buy her a kit for this and she told me to save our money. *Sigh* This has me down along with other RL concerns like the monthly budget. *Sigh* does it ever get better? I sure hope so. :( But Jack is supportive enough, most of the time. We've argued a bit more lately, nothng fierce, but enough I spent the last tdoc appt in tears thinking bad things again....Meaning about leaving...*sigh* I just don't know what the right thing is to do....

Dear Pammie,
Your post started off great about the alternative to smoking good for you for trying to quit. I did not know that your mom smokes mini cigars, that is unusual. Wish she would quit but can't make someone do anything unless she wants to and she doesn't want to.
sad
sorry to hear about your problems with jack...I wondered how things were.
I am glad that you have a therapist to support you....crying is theraputic they keep saying that.
((((((HUGS))))))
bizi

I gave up smoking in 2005, but Jack smokes cigars still and that's why we're gonna get a vaporizing kit, it's really better for you because you don't inhale burning tobacco but get flavor and even nicotine from it so that's probably gonna mean Jack is successful at stopping the filthy part of his habit. Now mom? I have NO clue why she started on mini cigars, she went from smoking cigs to those and it's really sad because of the state of her health. :(

oh my - almost scary
 

i have to confess i had never heard of a vaporizer kit. i googled it and found this...

is this what you are talking about Pam?

kit: http://www.nosmokeva.com/product/VMSBPW

http://www.nosmokeva.com/files/31695.../VMS%25202.jpg

e-cigarette: http://www.nosmokeva.com/page/e-ciga...s-and-benifits

http://www.nosmokeva.com/account/ima...=1280719725067


they've made it into a pure drug!!! sheeesshhh!!!

well, i hope it does help Jack quit smoking.

sorry about your mom... not much you can do there, one really has to want to, and even then it's hard.... sigh....

~ waves ~

Yep that's it exactly waves! :D

Pam

How would it help your health though?

If it still has the nicotine in it?


I am curious because my daughter in law smokes and I've been trying
to get her to ask for the drugs to try and stop.

But she needs something in the cigarette, if that makes sense.

Donna:grouphug:

health hazards of smoking
 

Dear Donna,

the nicotine - which is the only thing in the vaporizer - is what gives the "feeling" but it isn't the worst part of smoking. nicotine is the reason for physical addiction and part of the reason for psychological addiction, but beyond that, i'm not actually sure what its actual health hazards are. it may be a carcinogen... chewing tobacco and cigars (not inhaled) are both associated with increased incidence of oral cancer.

the worst parts of smoking - the parts that causes lung cancer and emphysema - is the other stuff in cigarettes/cigars: tar and additives, combined with the heat of smoking.

if you've ever known anyone who rolls their own, you might notice the cigarettes tend to go out. this happens with high quality cigarettes and cigars too - fewer additives. they use additives in both the paper and the tobacco, to keep cigarettes lit, and many of those have been identified as carcinogens and also directly linked to emphysema.

then there is the heat/tar combination. when you inhale from a cigarette, you inhale hot smoke, containing vaporized tar. the heat from the smoke actually seals it onto your lung tissues. very ooky business. most cigar smokers do not inhale the smoke. you aren't "supposed" to. but some do.

~ waves ~

It's better for you in that there is no burning tobacco, now they have various strengths of e-juice/flavored catridges and you can get all the way down to 0 mgs of nicotine so you're just getting the vapor and 'feeling' of smoking. That is what I want Mom to do, slowly wean herself OFF nicotine and to enjoy the 'feeling' of smoking while STOPPING the damage being done to her body. They say that your sense of smell returns about two weeks after your last actual cigarette and you get your stamina back too. All the while you no longer SMELL like an ashtray because the vapor is odorless. :)

Interesting. I might have to check in to how expensive it is.

Donna

Hope jack does well with it.
maybe he can be an example for your mum?
bizi

Dear Pam,
It cam be stressful to deal with people close to you who are not taking care of their health in ways we want.

Keep doing what you need to do to make yourself happy.
M.

Donna, I did a cost analysis and if the kit and supplies we buy for $82 bucks shipped lasts a year (thinking it will because it comes with two batteries and he won't be abusing it with higher resistance attomizers like people do to improve taste) we're looking at saving a little over $150 bucks. Savings increases if it lasts longer and we can find cheaper supplies for it. There are literally hundreds of vendors online, if you need help tell me a little about her smoking habits and I might be able to help you pin down what will make her happiest. :)

I know he's gonna be an example to Mom that is a given, she and I have already talked about e smoking and she's sort of interested, hoping that will translate into motivation when we get her a kit around her birthday. :) I won't be using it as I stopped smoking five years ago, but if it can get the smell of stinky cigars OFF Jack and OUT of our house by giving Jack the ability to vape (that's the going slang for e cig smoking, vape or vaping) no longer igniting some tobacco and making his breath smell like an ashtray, well I am all for it, that's why I've spent the last week educating myself on what is involved in this so the people I love who smoke will have an easier time making the transition to e cigs because they get one that will work out for them and KNOW how to drip e juice into the attomizer or to fill catridges, both of which are neccesary skills to have. :)

I wish they had had these around when I gave up smoking, I suffered so horribly, THIS would have helped so much. But like Mari suggests, I hav eto do what makes me happy, and this week has been a lot of fun, I really have been embraced by the online vaping community and they are ALL great people, very nice and very helpful. I couldn't have learned all I have without them, if you want a link PM me and I will send it so you can check out this board, you don't have to join, you can just lurkif you want to. Or go to youtube and run a search on e-cigarettes, lots of info out there. :)

Dear Pam,
You are now our residential expert on e cigs. :)
I'm glad you found good tools for Jack and your mom.
M.

Thanks Mari! :D I am thrilled to have found something to help them too...

Hi pam
 

I am new to the site. I am another florida person. where are you located. I am on the gulf coast, very hot this summer, without much rain really. Ever heard of AnnaMaria? It gets over looked for florida vacationers but now is becoming very popular because our beaches were not in jeopardy of the oil. We got all the tourist from the panhandle. Glad to meet you pam, Ginnie

Hi Ginnie,

I am on the gulfcoast too, and have been to Anna Marie Island, GORGEOUS place, I spent a night in a hotel there and we swam on the beach, it was fantastic. Also swam in the hotel's pool. I am a little north of Tampa and it's awesome to live in Florida, I was born here and love it. Nice to meet you too! :)

hi you guys! we just visited your lovely state, pensicola for the weekend.
Had a really good time.:)
Ate and drank our selves silly! It rained on saturday so we sat at the tiki hut bar and grille at paradise inn...THE entire day! well almost...11am to 8 pm....they had a squirt gun party!! I laughed so much and was so wet by the end of the day!!!! too much fun!
bizi

That sounds awesome Beth! So glad you enjoyed your time here! :D