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waves 11-07-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mari (Post 713026)
Yes. What you are doing is hard.
Going after jobs is trying. Remember that interviewing is much much more mental work than doing a job. Remind yourself that they are two different things.
At the risk of being obvious, I am pointing out that you can't compare what is happening now with what will happen when you get the right place.

thank you for reminding me of that Mari. going to work for the same place every day will be much less chaotic. i really hope i can handle the "regular" work stress better than i am handling this phase of things.

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We are pulling for you.
I hope you find what you need to be healthy and happy.
thanks :):hug::hug::hug:

~ waves ~

Mari 11-07-2010 02:01 PM


Dear Waves,


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am curious though, because you know i have had an increasing feeling about the office manager being uncomfortable with the bipolar thing. so i am going to wait.... i am going to see if she calls monday.
If you end up delving into this, you will find that she is uncomfortable with people with E.
We don't know how she got the job or why she works there.

She might call you. But even if she does, she is not going to change into a welcoming hostess. I really think she does not like outsiders in her office . .. . volunteers might even irk her.

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so, yesterday, it occurred to me maybe she didn't want to leave a "mental patient" in the office with the others, ya know?
It's not about you. She is territorial.
If the mis match between the manager and the coordinator is huge, you might be able to talk around the subject enough that the coordinator drops hints about how the two of them are not close in their views of how to bring out people's best talents and how best to open up and improve the center.

I agree about the smoking. She is wrong.

M.

Mari 11-07-2010 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by waves (Post 713483)
thank you for reminding me of that Mari. going to work for the same place every day will be much less chaotic. i really hope i can handle the "regular" work stress better than i am handling this phase of things.

thanks :):hug::hug::hug:

~ waves ~


Dear Waves,

My post on the weather thread was an attempt to show how
working is to job hunting

as

living with the same constant weather is to dealing with changes in weather.


I think am I trying to say that when someone is looking and interviewing for a job, they are in a constant pattern of weather changes and unknowns. Once they get the job, they are dealing with knowns -- expectations, people, feelings, . . . :)

Hugs.

M.

waves 11-07-2010 02:56 PM

i know it may be a bit obsessive of me but....
 
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Originally Posted by Mari (Post 713501)
If you end up delving into this, you will find that she is uncomfortable with people with E.
We don't know how she got the job or why she works there.

no delving. just waiting past monday, to see if she calls - before i call to say i can't deal with the smoke. ;)

she was introduced to the center through a childhood friend of hers - who had E since childhood. i am not sure which person the friend is or if i met her (i think i did the first time). i took that to mean at least some level of comfort but, who knows.

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I really think she does not like outsiders in her office . .. . volunteers might even irk her. It's not about you. She is territorial.
everyone there is a volunteer but that's possible about outsiders/territorial.

i am specifically wondering whether she brought me on errands to avoid leaving psycho gal unsupervised. if she doesn't call, it could be due to any number of things. but if she does call, it seems very unlikely she has a huge problem with the mental dx. that's why i want to see if she calls. the rest doesn't matter to me. i can't work there because of the smoke. she and several decorative ashtrays are clearly fixtures and i don't see that changing just because a new volunteer gets a cough.

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If the mis match between the manager and the coordinator is huge,
i really didn't get the impression of any mismatch. they may not have people come in if there isn't a lot to do. i got the impression there was always a lot to do from the coordinator but he is not in the office much, he works with the support groups mostly. he said she could use help with the computer but maybe there isn't anything much going on right now.

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I agree about the smoking. She is wrong.
thanks. she was not the only one smoking. the other volunteer who was stuffing envelopes with me also smoked. i checked national law - it does not cover private organizations, only employers or public offices. so they are not violating any law. it just doesn't seem real "with it". i will speak up because if other people also do, the voices will add up to change eventually (but probably not tomorrow or next week).

~ waves ~

Dmom3005 11-07-2010 03:24 PM

Waves

As one that needs to use Epilepsy Centers. When they are around.

I need to say I agree with you that smoking isn't a good thing in the
business world. Its also something that will irritate lots of people in
the world of seizures.

I hate to think anyone in there is smoking to set up this problem for
their clients.

Donna:grouphug:

OhKay 11-07-2010 09:45 PM

Dear Waves,

Regarding disclosure- it's a personal choice. I take it a bit farther- I really limit what I tell people about personal or health info. I just don't trust people. I've had a life full of lessons on that subject.
After I told my manager I was dx with MS, she told everyone, then I was run out of my job.

I'm happy to hear that you are getting calls re: employment!!! :)

It sounds like the volunteer coordinator at the epilepsy center is a lot more affable than the office supervisor. I hope that you'll be able to work with him outside the office.

I wish that everything was rosier for you, but I'm glad that you're keeping yourself busy,

Kay

waves 11-08-2010 03:00 AM

Kay

yeah i generally don't disclose - certainly not at work! :eek:

but i wanted it not to be an issue here. :o the volunteer coordinator was actually very helpful when i told him... said if i later considered applying for employment accomodations they have resources that can help with that etc... and encouraged me to consider it if employment continued to be a problem etc.

the conversation with the manager was again on disability. i was skeptical about it because i was afraid i'd have to disclose the specific pathology to the employer, and i asked her that. the answer was generally speaking no, but with some caveats - useful information at least.

yes we'll see later on about the other activities... they would be weekend and right now i need weekends to recover. when i start work, i most likely will need weekends to recover also. he is definitely a very affable and helpful sort of person though. the manager may have some issues as Mari suggests but maybe not - she definitely seemed more introverted... the kind of person who takes a little time to size you up and get used to you a bit, before they relax completely around you. her invitation/insistence to the errands may in fact have been an effort to get to know me, rather than an attempt to keep "the nut" on a leash. ;)

it really is too bad about the smoking.

Donna,

fyi... this center is not a medical facility or anything, it's a volunteer/support organization. and a fairly small one. but they do have folks coming in... some activities in day time (when there would be smoke), group meetings in the evening (and i assume some smoke and it is allowed so...) well all i can do is give feedback.

~ waves ~

waves 11-08-2010 03:01 AM

Monday monday
 
i am not happy it is monday. (is anyone ever happy it is monday? :rolleyes:)

i have an interview wednesday - new thing, not followup. :o

i just hope it doesn't rain. :Noooo:

~ waves ~

Mari 11-08-2010 03:04 AM

Dear Waves,
 
You are busy. The Wed interview is great news.
'Sending good thoughts.

Hugs.
Mari

waves 11-08-2010 04:17 AM

tired
 
i am tired and stressed.

wednesday's thing was set up the same time the other interview was set up... i've known about it but i've been hoping we could cancel. the idea was to cancel it if we got a confirmation from first folks in time. word on that was they should have a decision this week (not necessarily before wednesday).... but they could potentially take longer... it is a company that notoriously takes time...

if no news, i will have to check with the consultant what sort of availability to indicate to wednesday's ppl, if pressed. I.e how long are we going to hold out for last week's ppl. Personally, i want to hold out for a definite answer.

the wednesday thing is only 2 months. better than nothing.
the first one is through 2011 though and more promising situation/project overall. the kind of thing where if they like you they give you another contract.

i am tired. i am sick of running on caffeine. speaking of which... time to refuel... :o

~ waves ~


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