The Secret-oprah

bizi · 02-20-2007, 01:07 AM

My Husband showed me this web sight...I did not know anything about it. ran across this when looking up music promotion info. ....he read about the production of this movie about a year ago.
It basically echos the long held idea that our daily thoughts are blueprints for our actual experiences and concretely project our reality.

They talked about it on Oprah.

Whattaya think?

http://www2.oprah.com/spiritself/sli..._284_101.jhtml

bizi

Mari · 02-20-2007, 01:44 AM

Hi,
I bought the DVD over the internet for hubby. Most of the time he is extremely up. But when he is not, his negative obssesive talk bothers me. I had hoped that the movie could help him agree with me that we should both phrase things in a positive way when possible.

I only watched a few minutes of the movie while he was watching it, but got quickly annoyed -- this was last night.

i haven't yet asked him yet what he thought of it. Maybe, because he saw more than I did, he got something useful out of it.

The idea about believing you will have a new car and seeing yourself in the new car.....well this is something that doesn't make sense to me on the same level that the movie people seem to be talking about.

Mari

Nikko · 02-20-2007, 09:22 AM

I have to see this on DVD, because I am not exactly sure what it is all about.

Duh, too early in the morning.

Nikko

Just Jacquie · 02-20-2007, 01:03 PM

oh bizi -

now I'm really wanting to at least read all of the Oprah article, but there are 16 pages, and I just read page 6 and now realize that it's time for me to end my lunch and go back to work

.....now my curiosity is up, tho, and I will try to read it all this evening....sigh....

It would be great if it were as easy as they make it sound, tho (from what little of I have read).....

Thanks for posting this - maybe it will help at least one of us

watsonsh · 02-20-2007, 01:28 PM

I bought the book and have ordered the DVD. I watched both shows Oprah had on this topic and I was intrigued. If anything maybe it will help me to think more postively and be more grateful.

Mari · 02-20-2007, 03:45 PM

Hi,
The film is about the Power of Attraction.
Some of this makes sense to me.
Our personal energy is power.
Oprah had two shows on this over the past two weeks. People in the movie were on her show talking about the Power of Attraction.
Mari

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_(film) (Sorry. Can't get the link to work)

Quote:

As put forth in the film, the "Law of Attraction" principle posits that our feelings and thoughts attract real events in the world into our lives; from the workings of the entire cosmos to interactions among individuals in their physical, emotional, and professional affairs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Attraction

Quote:

The Law of Attraction is an idea that is widespread in New Age and New Thought philosophy.

It posits to never dwell on the negative, as the metaphysical principle of life is embodied in a "law of attraction": "you get what you think about; your thoughts determine your destiny."

According to proponents, this law is always working whether you want it to, or indeed whether you believe in it or not. Feelings, emotions, and appropriate thoughts, they say, make the law work faster on your behalf.

Thoughts penetrate time and space, acting as "personal magnets" with their own electrical vibration or frequency. These thoughts reach out and grab other similarly charged thoughts, attracting physical reality, which is actually just a more slower vibrating energy frequency; one's thoughts are faster more subtle vibrations of the same energy frequency.

Advocates of the law claim that quantum physics confirms the existence of this law.

mags · 02-20-2007, 04:04 PM

The two following quotes are some that really stood out to me from that article:

Quote:

The principle explains that we create our own circumstances by the choices we make in life. And the choices we make are fueled by our thoughts—which means our thoughts are the most powerful things we have here on earth.

Quote:

Michael says that thoughts—which turn into experience, speech and behavior—become the "feeling tone of your life." "An individual can actually begin to generate a certain feeling of gratitude, of love, of peace and of harmony, and the universe will begin to match that feeling tone—and what will flow into your life will match the feeling that you're holding," he says. "It means that everyone…can release themselves from being a victim and begin to take control of their life's destiny."

Hi Bizi, and all...

I haven't been around here much lately, but I do check in and read. As always, you all are in my thoughts and prayers. This topic is a great place for me to jump in and tell you guys how I've been doing.

As far as this movie goes, I had never heard of it, but the concept they are talking about in the article is something I truly believe in. I hadn't always felt this way though. I have found, with the help of a great therapist, that I am way more valuable then I ever gave myself credit for. I used to beat myself down with negative thoughts all the time. My therapist set the ball in motion by pointing out all the positive things about me. At first, I was thinking, yeah, yeah...whatever... It took awhile to sink in, but it has nonetheless. Every time I would get down on myself, my therapist would come back with an alternative view, a positive one.

He helped me to realize that I am not "ill." My thoughts, feelings and actions were/are a result of the way I was raised and things that happened to me when I was a child, that were out of my control. I was, and still am, seriously lacking life skills. But, I'm learning them now. There is nothing pathologically wrong with my brain. My feelings and actions are not "abnormal" - and in fact, are quite "normal" given the experiences I've been through. How can you put a label on that, when it's something so highly individualized? What I really realized, is that I DO have control over myself now. My life is in my own hands. I have to think about where I want my life to go - imagine it, and know that it is possible. What is life without hope?

What I am about to say is not intended as advice at all, but just what works for me. In a couple of months, I will be off all meds, and no longer seeing a psychiatrist. I'm in the process of slowly tapering off them now, and so far, so good. I've been reading a lot of things lately about the big pharma companies and their ties to psychiatry. I feel like I was used as a lab rat for 8 years - with two solid years of being a totally non-functioning zombie. But, I can't focus on that because it serves no purpose, I can't change what happened - but I CAN decide what will happen next.

I am so very thankful that I found my therapist when I did. It's therapy, not meds, that have helped me, finally. My therapist is experienced, kind, compassionate, open and non-judgemental. He does "Client Centered Therapy" - that is, no certain "type" of therapy based on a diagnosis. It's much more individualized than that, and I lead the therapy. There is a very tight therapist/client alliance. It's really wonderful, I love it.

Well, I guess that's enough for now. I do tend to ramble! HUGS to everyone!

mags

Mari · 02-20-2007, 04:10 PM

Dear Mags,
You sound wonderful.
I am soooo glad that you have a therapist to help you after all these years.
Thanks for making my day.

Mari

Mari · 02-20-2007, 04:15 PM

Hi,
I looked up Client-Centered Therapy. I had a friend many years ago who studied the founder in college (and because I am a freak about looking up things)

http://world.std.com/~mbr2/cct.html

Quote:

So, this is what CC therapists do:

--Listen and try to understand how things are from the client's point of view.

--Check that understanding with the client if unsure.

--Treat the client with the utmost respect and regard.

--There is also a mandate for the therapist to be "congruent", or "transparent" - which means being self-aware, self-accepting, and having no mask between oneself and the client. The therapist knows themselves and is willing to be known.

Thanks, Mags

mari

bizi · 02-20-2007, 08:28 PM

Dear Mags,
I am so happy for your continued success.
This is a testament to what a good therapist can do for you...wow!
Learning life skills is a challenge...learning to be grateful in all things is also a great step for me as well.
((((HUGS))))
bizi

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