Hi I would just like to point out

that i have not seen - and will not see Season 3 of Downton Abbey, any time soon.

So far so good, it's been mostly general comments, but i just wanted to request

please would you take care to avoid spoilers from Season 3, thank you.

~ waves ~

Yes they are a really sweet couple, too. I haven't seen too much of Penny yet, but I like Des a lot and he seems like such and incurable romantic... lots of what I like about him.

yes! more sensory boundaries to help the brain section stuff off rather than end up with a giant mishmash.!

I appreciate the heads up. I have had this suspicion growing, if only because I can't see how they could possibly wrap everything up neatly all together... figure there are going to be loose ends, or ends that are abruptly sawed off if you will, rather than elegantly knotted. However there is always the irrational hope that the writers will pull off something miraculous... or to relate to the show as a whole entity and not something progressive - as Bizi said at an earlier point, they make things up as they go along - does apply to some things, also you have actor negotiations and writers strikes etc... bit different than someone who writes a book, or even a series of books. Yet to the audience it is easy to forget... especially with so many puzzles screaming for answers. So. Thanks, and I will try not to nurture too many expectations.

I think i have shows like that but not having the level of complexity/puzzles present in LOST.

Sorry, you lost me here, on the meaning of "two episode arc" ??? Did you mean no more than two seasons? otherwise I can't think how to interpret this...

Kind of!!
I'll say. That is two weeks worth but only about 5 days on the show.

Here is a Evangeline Lilly (Kate) on the Lost Season 2 on the Ellen DeGeneres show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF4rXWhRpqo
Lost is Lilly's first acting job. She was a model in Canada.
She is indeed one of the weakest actors on the show but she is well directed and gets better each season.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQAuzBEple8
Josh Holloway audition tape

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAjQ-hvO-zg
Lost Behind the Scenes. Confidence_Man
Scene discussion about Sawyer
Josh talks. --- . . ."struggle with his own humanity."
. . . a fine line to being the guy you love to hate or the guy that you just fricking hate."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1CQSRvoDv8
Ask LOST: Naveen Andrews - Lost
Naveen Andrews (Sayid) out of character talks briefly about his character. I like his London accent.
OMG --- today I think I am in love with Naveen after watching that little clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl66AjElD7I
Lost- Meet the Characters Part3 Claire and Shannon and Sayid and Hurley

Also one could look for pod casts of the writers talk about the season. Sometimes they talk pre-season or midway through. Yes, I was obsesing. But I do not feel like looking for them now.

At one point earlier tonight I was able to find the first two minutes of the pilot --- where Jack wakes up in the forest. But youtube wants me to sign in now. It is being annoying and asking me if I am old enough to view the content.
Oh. Well. It feels like it is too complicated.

M

Lost!!!!!!!!

I was thinking of shows like "The Practice" -- a medical show without too much medical most of the time that at the most took two episodes to wrap up a story line about a patient. Sometimes if it was something that was not real intense (like a love interest), it could simmer a few episodes or get dropped completely and two seasons we see the love interest show up and then at half way through the season, they marry. "The Good Wife" is kind of like that too except after season 2 I stopped watching because the time slot stunk and I got bored even though I watch an episode once in a while.

I feel that for good or ill "Lost" expects a lot out of its audience.
And I can see sometimes how its was described as a cult.
Humans cannot do that. But they can pull out something beautiful and heart warming and somewhat satisfying.

I disagree. In order to sell the series to the network, they had a plan. Their pilot was the most expensive pilot in the history of television.

After season three, they announced that there would only be three more seasons (Season 6 would be the last). Whatever the real reason, at that time they said that they were writing to a specific end (the show was not going to go on and on.) They also said that there would be no re-runs. We got some "re-cap" shows but no repeats.

The writers on "Homeland" (Showtime) talked about how sometimes they put in a detail (like the mole -- on a CIA show) that they might use later. They placed the mole problem in season 1. They might not ever go back to it. Then again, they might if they choose and a situation calls for it.

What the writers of "Lost" have done is create believable and interesting characters. The actors are working with good material and doing good jobs.
I hated losing characters in season 2. (There was weirdness about two or three actors getting in trouble with DUIs in Hawaii and then being killed off. The writers said that they actors left for other reasons.
The show won Emmys for season 1 and other Emmys and other awards other years.

M

Hi, Bizi,

I found clips from only Season 1 or half way season 2.

I have triple checked for no spoilers.

I guess I should check a fourth time.






It is a captivating show.

M

Indeed! And not just for the audience....

For the characters too there is no shortage of captures, captives and captors!

~ waves ~ still devouring transcripts...

Yes. Ben was captured. Now he has captured some Losties.


Season 3 Episode 7 “Not in Portland”
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I went back and watched the Nate Fillion episode with the wedding and the surgery stuff. Then I watched Season 3 Episode 7 “Not in Portland” Somehow watching the wedding episode about two or three (?) episodes ago messed up my idea of the narrative.

I like the title of this episode. Alpert says we are not in Portland. I'll say!! The island is far from Portland and so is the activity of the island and its inhabitants.

We see that Juliet is a world-class fertility specialist who helps her sister. Her sister becomes three months p.g. Otherwise I skipped most of the Rachel / Juliet flashback scenes. The medical stuff was intense an episode or two before and while this might not be as intense, I can lighten the load so to speak.
Juliet’s husband has the name of a philosopher -- Edmund Burke, and gets run over by a bus --- her hope she stated aloud the day before.


On the Hydra Island: The operating room stuff goes back and forth with will Jack finish the surgery or won’t he and will Kate go or won’t she? Also, can we trust Juliet or can’t we? And can poor Sawyer get a break from the beatings and smack downs?
We expect more of the Alex and Karl story sometime in the future because so far nothing has happened except we know that Karl is on the "outs" with Ben. It cute to see star crossed lovers work against authority.


Mr. Alpert is a new character who represents a group on the island.


Juliet was promised that she would work for the “Others” for six months.
We learn that they have not been able to travel back and forth since the sky turned blue.
Regarding trusting Juliet: she has disregard for standard medical ethics and agrees to join a shady group for six months. Yet we do see her shoot and kill Pickett so that Kate, Sawyer, and Karl can escape. When she tells Jack that she wants to go home after being there for three plus years, we pretty much believe her.

She can be as violent as any of the Others but hers violence is different maybe. She shoots Pickett is a clean focused shot. She is ruthless but contained in a way. That why is it is hard to get a good “read” on her. She might not be as conniving as Ben but seems to be as equally as free to mess with people’s heads. Maybe I see her as cerebral -- lives in her head as much (or more than) as she does in her actions. Also, she makes her own rules.

How do you feel about Juliet? I mean, even if one believes her, one might see that she has some inconsistencies. And we see that for now she and Jack are somewhat tied to each other.

M

lol actually i didn't remember this... although i just came upon Ben's story.

I've transcripted my way through Season 3. I'm waiting to see the beginning of Season 3 Episode 7 “Not in Portland”, most of which i saw this evening. I had already read the episode over the weekend though. I will probably keep reading - will advise periodically where I am. Then when I get to the end you won't have to worry about spoilers.

I'll still be watching because watching is different. Pre-reading helps defuse some of the violence though.

I liked it too - actually I like a lot of the titles.

haha love how you sum this up. and yes lots of back and forth.

actually, while it keeps you on the edge of your seat, i find rather frustrating the constant toggling of probabilities, possibilities and loyalties from one extreme to another. i am at the point of not buying anything - no expectations - just wait. i think plot developments can be done differently than toggling...

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