advertisement
 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-25-2011, 01:13 AM #1
Mari's Avatar
Mari Mari is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 18,914
15 yr Member
Mari Mari is offline
Legendary
Mari's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 18,914
15 yr Member
Question Amantadine for bipolar depression? It is a dopamine agonist.

Hi,
15 years ago, I took amantadine for a few years when I was given an unofficial dx of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I don't remember whether it worked or what side effects I had. After a few years, the pdoc who was treating me for CFS and Bipolar discontinued it.
I wonder if amantadine would help now. The traditional anti-depressants are causing side effects.
I also wonder if my current pdoc/neuro would be willing to prescribe it for me.

M.


Here is an abstract about Amantadine for depression.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12598820

Int Clin Psychopharmacol. 2003 Mar;18(2):93-6.
Amantadine as augmentation therapy in the management of treatment-resistant depression.
Quote:
Treatment-resistant depression is an important clinical problem presenting a major challenge to clinical psychiatry. While several strategies have been attempted, including medication switch, antidepressant polypharmacy and various augmentative regimens, success remains limited. Amantadine (AMN), an agent traditionally used in the treatment and prophylaxis of influenza, is now known to exhibit prominent effects at the level of dopaminergic, monoamine oxidase and N-methyl-D-aspartate systems. The present reports on the efficacy of AMN as augmentation to standard antidepressant treatment in patients with treatment-resistant depression. Eight patients with treatment-resistant depression consented to receive AMN, titrated up to a dose of 300 mg, over a period of 4 weeks in a non-blinded fashion. Improvement in both depression and anxiety scores were observed from week 1, with patients exhibiting improvement of depressive scores of up to 49% by study completion.

Females appeared to exhibit a stronger response, and within a shorter period of time. Side-effects reported included dry mouth and sedation. AMN appears to demonstrate efficacy as a safe and effective augmentative agent in treatment-resistant depression. Further studies are clearly mandated to test these preliminary observations in a double-blinded manner.
Mari is offline  
"Thanks for this!" says:
bizi (04-25-2011), Dmom3005 (04-25-2011), mymorgy (04-25-2011), OhKay (04-25-2011), waves (04-25-2011)

advertisement
Old 04-25-2011, 02:36 AM #2
waves's Avatar
waves waves is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 10,329
15 yr Member
waves waves is offline
Legendary
waves's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 10,329
15 yr Member
Heart

Good questions and certainly worth talking to your current pdoc about your past experience and whether it might be useful for you now.

btw... have you ever been tested for Borna (Borna Disease Virus / BDV)?

(((hugs)))

~ waves ~
waves is offline  
"Thanks for this!" says:
bizi (04-25-2011), Dmom3005 (04-25-2011), Mari (04-25-2011), OhKay (04-25-2011)
Old 04-25-2011, 09:24 AM #3
Mari's Avatar
Mari Mari is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 18,914
15 yr Member
Mari Mari is offline
Legendary
Mari's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 18,914
15 yr Member
Default Thanks

WOW, Waves,

That is very interesting.

I need to send for records / results from the three docs the internist had me see in the fall and then make an appt with her soon.
M.

Amantadine in depressive patients with Borna disease virus (BDV) infection: an open trial
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...3B4A7D0.d03t03
Quote:
Keywords:
affective disorders;amantadine;bipolar disorder;Borna disease virus (BDV);major depression;treatment response

Objective: Originally introduced into pharmacotherapy as an antiviral compound, amantadine was shown to also have multiple pharmacological effects on the central nervous system. In addition, only a few studies reported on certain antidepressive properties of amantadine. This effect was highlighted by the discovery of its antiviral effect on Borna disease virus (BDV), which is hypothesized to be an etiopathogenetic factor to subtypes of affective disorders. Therefore, the therapeutical use of amantadine in BDV-infected depressive patients was investigated. Methods: In this open trial, amantadine was added to antidepressive and/or mood-stabilizing compounds treating BDV-infected depressed patients (n=25) with bipolar or major depressive disorders. Amantadine was given twice a day (100–300 mg/day) for a mean of 11 weeks. Antidepressive treatment response was measured on the Hamilton rating scale for depression (HAM-D) and/or with an operationalized diagnostic criteria system (OPCRIT; version 3.31). Virological response was measured by expression of BDV infection parameters in blood samples. Results: The overall response rate of the amantadine augmentation in the BDV-infected patients with regard to depressive symptoms was 68% after a mean of 2.9 weeks of treatment.

Bipolar I patients improved faster and did not show any following hypomania. In addition, the decrease of depression tended to correspond with the decrease in viral activity.

Conclusion: Amantadine appears to show a remarkable antidepressive efficacy in BDV-infected depressive patients. The antidepressive effect in this open trial appeared to be comparable to standard antidepressives, possibly being a result of its antiviral effect against BDV as a potentially relevant etiopathogenetic factor in these disorders.
Mari is offline  
"Thanks for this!" says:
Dmom3005 (04-25-2011), OhKay (04-25-2011)
Old 04-25-2011, 11:24 AM #4
waves's Avatar
waves waves is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 10,329
15 yr Member
waves waves is offline
Legendary
waves's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 10,329
15 yr Member
Thumbs up

Yeah i ran into similar stuff... but so far have not found anything double-blind crossover controlled trials and nothing recent... most recent 2003, mentions need for these...

be nice to see an investigation as to whether it has primary antidepressive qualities independently of its action on BDV infection which.

anyway whatever, if your pdoc is on board, can't hurt (too much) to try i figure, 'specially if it worked before.

~ waves ~
waves is offline  
"Thanks for this!" says:
bizi (04-25-2011), Dmom3005 (04-25-2011), Mari (04-25-2011), OhKay (04-25-2011)
Old 04-25-2011, 05:04 PM #5
OhKay's Avatar
OhKay OhKay is offline
Elder
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,046
10 yr Member
OhKay OhKay is offline
Elder
OhKay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,046
10 yr Member
Default

Very interesting...
OhKay is offline  
"Thanks for this!" says:
bizi (04-25-2011), Dmom3005 (04-25-2011), Mari (04-26-2011), waves (04-26-2011)
Old 04-26-2011, 05:01 AM #6
Mari's Avatar
Mari Mari is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 18,914
15 yr Member
Mari Mari is offline
Legendary
Mari's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 18,914
15 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OhKay View Post
Very interesting...

Yes. I wonder what my internist will say when I see her in a few weeks.

M.
Mari is offline  
"Thanks for this!" says:
bizi (04-26-2011), OhKay (04-26-2011), waves (04-26-2011)
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
dyskinesias: with or without agonist? lurkingforacure Parkinson's Disease 28 12-21-2010 05:49 AM
The agonist of defeat Conductor71 Parkinson's Disease 53 01-25-2010 04:50 PM
Dopamine transporter relation to dopamine turnover in Parkinson's disease olsen Parkinson's Disease 0 10-05-2007 09:28 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:56 AM.

Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.7.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.