I have been feeling so tired and out of energy in the evenings. This has been going on for a while now.
I stopped going to the gym at 8 because I was too tired. then jeff and I have been walking around our neighborhood after dinner, and that has become a chore to get myself to do this. every few days I actually lay down and nap after our walk. WE were at a concert last night and I could not stay still I had a lot of pent up energy but was tired. The other night I almost fell asleep at another concert that we went to. My meds have not changed, I have been eating like this , no changes there. I eat the same for lunch as I do dinner.
I spoke with a woman at the health food store tammie she said that my adrenals were depleted.
I have not researched what that all means.
Does anyone know anything about this in general?
thanks bizi

• excessive fatigue and exhaustion
• non-refreshing sleep (you get sufficient hours of sleep, but wake fatigued)
• overwhelmed by or unable to cope with stressors
• feeling rundown or overwhelmed
• craving salty and sweet foods
• you feel most energetic in the evenings (this is when I feel most tired)
  
• a feeling of not being restored after a full night's sleep or having sleep disturbances
• low stamina, slow to recover from exercise
• slow to recover from injury, illness or stress
• difficulty concentrating, brain fog
• poor digestion
• low immune function
• food or environmental allergies
• premenstrual syndrome or difficulties that develop during menopause
• consistent low blood pressure
• extreme sensitivity to cold

Here's some holistic adrenal info/sites -
http://www.healwithhope.com/articles/adrenal-fatigue/
http://www.holistichelp.net/adrenal-fatigue.html

I am 49 years old and am starting to go thru menopause.
last month I had two cycles in one month, hated that. Maybe this is jsut part of that process. I think that I have not been eating enough at dinner time too. Snacking alot doesn't help a diet though.
bizi

Same symptoms as my thyroid diax Bizi.

Have you had the thyroid checked? I believe you said they had.THe exhaustion is a pain in the butt. Total wipeout comes on.

When ds had adrenal gland failure, the steroids /epidurals.....pain shots. made his bodyadrenal gland) stop producing the adrenialyn, it was being fooled by his epidural spine injections steroids. He was OD'd on steroid.
Face was bright red, flushed bad, ephuria, laughing at stupid things, no reason for laughing.

I hope something has you feeling back to normal again.

Bizi,

Ask a gyn to do a hormone workup. If the mdoc finds anything, he or she can offer suggestions.

M

I had saliva testing done when I first started having symptoms last year with the rosacea, my hormones were fine.
But maybe they have changed since then. It has been awhile since I had my thyroid checked maybe I should ask my pdoc to write me orders.
I have had an increased amount of stress from my business being slow, financial stress....that is contributing. I don't have motivation to do much which has been going on for a long while.
I am getting ready to start selling some nutritional supplements part time. They are specifically designed (ingredient wise) to help elevate mood.
I am anxious to try them out. They hit the market in may. I am hoping to try some samples before then. Their website is not up yet. All plant based.

solle vital:
(This is just one of their 7 products)
the ingrediants:
chloropyll, alfalfa, mulberry, nettle, spinach
oatstraw,dandelion, burdock
eleuthero, schizandra, astragalus, jioagulan, ashwaganda, rhodiola extracts.
stevia as a sweetener.


bizi

Dear Bizi

i agree with hormonal bloodwork including gyn and thyroid. i would see your mdoc for starters. might be able to recommend an endocrinologist that can cover all the bases.

adrenal insufficiency tends to happen in the scenario Di described - when someone is on steroids and they are not removed gradually enough. you have not taken oral steroids, so it seems less likely to me. still, they can check your adrenal function.

i also had the same reaction as Di wrt thyroid function. those can be signs of thyroid hypoactivity. other signs of that would be

• constipation
• brittle hair and breakage
• brittle nails/ridging
• dry skin
• feeling cold more than is "normal for you"
• weight gain w/o change in diet.

females over 50 are at highest risk of developing hypothyroidism.

even though you have lost some weight, i kind of wonder because you are on a diet, and did not lose a lot.... could be a reason for that. definitely get full thyroid panel (not just TSH) - make sure they do, at minimum:

TSH, FT4, FT3.



~ waves ~

Dear BiziPlants contain chemicals. it is the chemicals in them which work as supplements. Those chemicals are no different than drugs wrt how we process them. sometimes they do similar things to our drugs (eg St. John's Wort works similar to SSRIs). Manic reactions are just as possible, depending on the mechanism of action of the herb (chemicals in it.)

Interactions are also possible if you take meds and plants that have similar actions - eg, 2 things that elevate serotonin can put one at risk for Serotonin Syndrome.

Moreover and very importantly, our body, and especially the liver does a lot of work "dismantling" these chemicals - herbs or drugs, it cares not - for excretion.

if you intend to take herbal supplements of any kind safely along with meds you need to research each and every single plant - its active constituents. then, you need to find out how each constituent is metabolized, down to the nitty gritty, to see if it has the potential of messing with your meds... or messing up your meds.

just as a general example, many herbs induce glucuronidation - a process by which many benzo's are partially metabolized. oxidative processes involving hepatic enzymes, esp. the p450 family of enzymes are affected by many herbs also.

a given plant chemical can "induce" or "inhibit" an enzyme or metabolic pathway. this will cause, respectively, faster or slower clearance of any drug that is processed via that route. that in turn results in lower or higher plasma levels of the drug.

Because it is difficult to find solid information of this kind on herbs, and even doctors don't know of herb-drug interactions except for a handful of herbs, i personally adopt the "either-or" philosophy when it comes to meds, and that is also my personal recommendation to others, for safety :

--- EITHER ---
commercial pharmaceuticals (interactions are well documented)
----- OR -----
herbal remedies (a good herbalist will know how to combine herbs with each other safely)

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i hope you find some answers from the docs, and feel better soon.

love

~ waves ~

Dear waves, thank you for the heads up....Christine is a natureopathic doctor, I guess I am trusting her that these are safe supplements to take. Golly I never thought that they could make me manic. I wonder if I should tell her that I am bipolar?????
bizi