Hi,

I do not feel well.

I went to tdoc. Apparently I was agitated and angry and upset.
She asked me to call her when I got home because she was concerned about my driving I think.

I have chest pains and feel awful.


M

Mari

I am worried about you too.

Hope if the chest pain continues. You get your self to the hospital.

I will be thinking about you and sending good thoughts.

Donna

Just wanted to say hello, as I saw your post earlier but didn't have time to type anything then.
Hope you are feeling better soon, if not go to ER?? or Urgent care?

fever? anxiety ? anger?

muscle spasms of the chest muscles (intercoastals) will feel like that too.
I had those in the past..

I am sorry you are not feeling well, take care of you. let hubby help.
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

Our Mari, so caring, taking care of others. Please take care of yourself. If you could use a hug, I am sending a dozen.
Love to you dear friend,
di

Hi,

Thanks.
I am used to being upset. It felt weird for it to completely manifest in tdoc's office.


I fell asleep and took a nap with the tv right after I wrote the above post. The nap seemed to help because I was soooo sleep deprived.
I am still concerned about my anxiety.
I wonder if I need med tweaking.

M

Dear Mari

I really hope you feel better. And especially that the chest pain is gone. It is always freaky when that happens. One knows it can be due to anxiety, but one is never sure that it is, in fact, for certain, anxiety. So I just hope it is gone by now.

I guess I am mildly surprised you felt odd at being upset in tdoc's office.

My experience: Even though often being at tdoc's brings my mood up a little, i am used to being upset in front of him. When he was new, and i was not, i put it to myself that i had to learn, so that we could deal with issues that upset me, and i wouldn't get caught up in my state... but rather get on with our exchange. When i get into issues, i do get upset, and now i am ok with being upset in his office. I feel it is actually useful that feelings are expressed directly (sadness, anger) rather than referred calmly "i am angry about...." I believe if he "sees" it he can help me better. Now that is my personal perspective, that is all.

Now I understand you have a "thing" with your tdoc... she "gets you" as you say... you don't have to talk about it, close to psychic etc. You do hypnosis (i.e. "work" from an altered state of awareness). All of that is why i was only MILDLY surprised.

I have to posit very gently, that maybe you could, just as you are "used to being upset", gradually learn to be "ok" with being upset in her office. You know, learn to do the conventional let it all hang out. I think it might be very insightful, especially for her. At first, it will feel uncomfortable and may hamper things a little, but in the long run, I believe that her actually witnessing your upset states could augment her ability to help you.

Now that is just my two cents. I do not have a psychic pdoc nor do I do hypnosis. I understand one has to be calm to do hypnosis. The way that pdoc and I work things though is if we are supposed to dedicate a session to a specific thing but i am too upset, we defer. We might deal with my upsetness, or just with something different where my being upset does not hamper it. It is not like i always go there upset. So eventually we get back to whatever we were supposed to have done and progress is made. Also, dealing with immediate states is another kind of progress, in its own right.

If you think maybe meds need a tweak well you know what I'll say next... call pdoc. If you've been more up in the air than usual for say a week now, definitely time to give him a call.

Good luck, and again, I wish you the best and hope you feel much better soon. I hope you are able to get more good sleep too. I know that will help you.

sending loving thoughts

~ waves ~

Hi Mari Being upset can definitely cause chest pains. I've had all kinds of chest pains. The type that last,and move to my back,and goes to the middle of my body around my heart,then up to my arm pit area. I don't know why this happens. I've worn out sweaters,and T shirts right in the middle because I've rubbed the pain area even when I didn't know it.

The things that have made me angry recently are what people say when they don't know what they are talking about,and they hurt me. Those things just reinforce me getting upset again,and that anxiety pain comes back.

I tried something new with my chest pains recently. I breathed out from my stomach,or belly as far as I could,and I had relief from the chest pains. I hope that this helps. BF

Mari,
I am glad you took the nap. THe lack of sleep can beat up a person for sure.

BF,
I use the same method. Sometimes it is something that I want to be upset about and don't want to lose the moment, so I slow breath and let it pass slowly. Memories that I enjoy, but I am missing my dd. I want the heartach to stop, but keep the memory going.

Feels like a broken heart...

When people talk to you like that, I would say judge not less they be judged. Certainly no one has the right to belittle, or judge as they do not walk in the same shoes.
Hugs to you
Di

Hi Di. I am so sorry about your heartache. I know that you cherish the memory of your dear daughter. I hope that the grief subsides. I'm sending gentle hugs your way. BF