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Mari 10-31-2012 11:52 PM

50 mgs of zinc?!! Also, ratio of zinc to copper
 
Majo,

I wrote a long post. I hope that is O.K.

Taking zinc on an empty stomach can cause stomach troubles --- I remember having nausea.
I always take zinc with food.

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In this study of people taking Zinc with Antidepressants the patients took only 25 mgs of Zinc per day. This is less than you are taking.
http://www.bastyrcenter.org/content/view/686/

Quote:

The new study evaluated the effect of zinc supplementation in people with major depression who were also taking antidepressant medications. Twelve people aged 25 to 57 years were randomly assigned to take one of the following for 12 weeks: (1) 25 mg of zinc per day plus an antidepressant medication, or (2) placebo plus an antidepressant medication. The response to treatment was assessed by using the Hamilton Depression Rating Scale and the Beck Depression Inventory before the trial and at 2, 6, and 12 weeks. Both groups had an improvement in depressive symptoms; however, the zinc-supplemented group showed a statistically significant improvement compared with the placebo group at 6 and 12 weeks.
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Zinc and copper have a relationship to each other. If you take too much zinc, you can become deficient in copper.

Quote:

A total intake of 60 mg zinc daily may trigger a copper deficiency, according to the Linus Pauling Institute. That's why the U.S. Food and Nutrition Board sets the tolerable upper level of intake for zinc, or UL, at 40 mg daily for adults. This includes both dietary and supplemental zinc. Gaining adequate zinc is important, however, because it plays critical roles in neurological function, immune response, growth and development, and reproduction. The tolerable upper intake for copper is 10 mg daily.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/50...#ixzz2AwR9cfSF

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To make this unnecessarilycomplicated, I remember reading that perhaps too much Copper (Cu), can cause bipolar-type symptoms. . . . in my mind, flushing out SOME copper might be good but I could be completely wrong -- not the first time by the way.:eek:

http://www.drkaslow.com/html/zinc-co...mbalances.html
Quote:

It has been reported (HRI-PTC) that 80% of hyperactive patients and 68% of behavior-disordered patients have elevated blood copper levels. Their families often report worsened hyperactivity/behavior after consuming vitamin supplements or cereals rich in copper. In many cases, symptoms may be provoked by consuming chocolate (rich in copper) or food dyes rich in hydrazines, which lower blood zinc levels.
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Anyway, you might not need so much Zinc (Zn).
This U.S. Gov web sites says adult women on normal diets need 8 mgs a day.
http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Zinc-QuickFacts/

M

waves 11-01-2012 06:48 AM

thoughts... cautions... i hope doesn't upset you
 
Dear Majo

Yes Mari's right about the Zinc. I can't remember if i take 15mg or 30, i think only 15, and that's because i have a medicine which puts it out of my body. it is found in quite a variety of foods, with beef having a pretty high content. if red meat is part of your diet that means you are already getting a good bit of zinc. other sources include spinach, sesame seeds, peas, peanuts, as i said, quite varied. so a moderate supplement should be all you need to avoid the risk of upsetting copper and iron balance (both are affected by zinc).

sorry about those darn cells... i wish there were... emmm... some sort of cell fertilizer?? :D:rolleyes::eek: (jk: did you think of maybe spraying them with some HGF, or putting some in the agar? :cool:)

Seriously. scientifically, do you have an expected growth rate for these cells? if so, can you think of reasons why they might be growing slower than expected? i can only think of obvious things... temperature, pressure, humidity, light/dark... etc. but maybe you can think of other things to do with the culture.

Sorry about all the trouble with arranging the party with this singer and his manager... when you have an established band that's pretty much how things are. Be careful with your emotions around him. I'm sure many girls show interest in him, without thinking he'd reciprocate, and he's probably used to that.

My guess is he does not realize how you feel about him and if he does, he does not realize the extent, much less how sensitive you are. This does not mean he isn't nice person, but I get the sense his perspective on this is different than yours and I am afraid you'll be hurt if you push things. Perhaps you are already arriving at that conclusion yourself, reading your last post.

My suggestion is from here on out to stay friendly with the singer, try hard to work with the manager for the details (if you do not understand what he wants, call back and get clarification on his needs... remember, he's working for YOU - your party), and the party should turn out splendidly. Other than that, I'd say just enjoy this guy's company for what it's worth... while he's there.

Take care sweet Majo ;):hug::hug::hug:

love

~ waves ~

Dmom3005 11-01-2012 11:18 AM

Majo

I know nothing about zinc so listen to the ladies. They are very knowledge
able it seems.

At least with looking it up in some ways.

Heehee

Donna:grouphug::hug:

BlueMajo 11-01-2012 05:27 PM

Hello my ladies !!!!!!!

Thank you for all the posts ! :hug: I actually LOVE long posts !!! :D :) :hug:

Thank you so much for all the help !!! I just rang the doc and he told me to cut the pill in 2, so I will be indeed taking 25 mg now... Thanks Mari ! hopefully this dosage will work ;)

Im so excited about the party.... I can not wait !!! Sometimes I feel really stressed though... plus yeah, Im sure he doesnt feel the same I do :( Cant wait to meet him in person... I know I will feel down after he is gone....

About my cells, they always grow at this slowly rate... nothing is weird or wrong with them, the thing is that I needed 50 dishes this time... :( I made a 3 days experiment last week and guess what: IT FAILED !!! So I still have no results.... my exam is November 28th.... I need to have something new to show... Im so stressed.... :(

Thank you so much for your help and for thinking about me :hug: I love you so much.

bizi 11-01-2012 05:33 PM

when is your party?
sorry about your cells not cooperating.
bizi

BlueMajo 11-02-2012 12:14 AM

In 2 weeks bizi.... :o

Ms manic 11-02-2012 12:17 AM

I take zinc to stop chocolate cravings. Fewer calories but not as much fun.

BlueMajo 11-02-2012 08:28 AM

Really ?

They have the opposite effect on me...

Chocolate makes me high. Zinc makes me down.

Guys, I feel like stress is gonna induce me a heart attack. Couldnt sleep last night and right now I feel like, you know, when you cant breathe ? :( Need something to calm me down !

Dmom3005 11-02-2012 09:06 AM

Mayo

I think its more the excitement from the party and thinking about it.

So do some deep breathing and some talking to your self about the party
is still a couple of weeks away I need to calm down a little.

Also maybe if you mediate some of this. I think its more your excited
than other things. So just try to calm down your body.

I think you need to also not worry about what can happen, there is only
one person that will make that happen in the end. If the doctor tells
you its possible, then you can take some steps to keep it from happening
right. I know its not easy to not think about it. But maybe say the doctor
will tell me if I need to worry.

I am so glad your having this big party. Maybe we could do a countdown on
here. So you could start a thread and we could all count down with you.
And then party day, Have a online party too.

Donna:grouphug::hug:

Dmom3005 11-02-2012 09:08 AM

I have a thought on the cells.

Isn't it possible to sometimes have a bad year or half a year with them.
So you have to take the bad with the good.

So you would explain what you did this time wasn't what was needed.

Something like that. Its science right and a experiment. And you
did what you were supposed to, it just didn't work.

Donna:grouphug::hug:

BlueMajo 11-02-2012 09:34 AM

Im not excited Donna :( Im stressed because I dont want to loose my place at the lab, or my scholarship :( :( :(

I think like you do, and Im really praying that my 3 bosses will understand.... I dont know what to do.... I will work like crazy this next week, but still, things might not work... God knows I did worked hard this semester, didnt take days off or anything, but dont know if my boss can see it or she thinks I have been doing nothing....

I have only 2 more weeks of work before my exam because, well, I could have a third one but, the Finnish guys will be here and I wanted to take them out and stuff but.... well, considering all my problems at work that might not happen and I may need to go to the lab even the day of my party.... because no one is going to understand that was the 4 days I wanted to take off this semester... :( :(

I need a miracle.

I can not stop crying, dont know how to handle this. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmom3005 (Post 928045)
I have a thought on the cells.

Isn't it possible to sometimes have a bad year or half a year with them.
So you have to take the bad with the good.

So you would explain what you did this time wasn't what was needed.

Something like that. Its science right and a experiment. And you
did what you were supposed to, it just didn't work.

Donna:grouphug::hug:


bizi 11-02-2012 01:22 PM

I am sorry that you are this upset about everything. take some deep breathes and tell your self that you are doing the best possible. talk with your supervisor about your lab work...get one of them to verbally support you before your exam date. This will reassure you that you have their support.
I don't think taking personal time off right now would be in your best interest.
just my opinion.
sorry it is so hard right now.
((((((HUGS))))):hug:
bizi

BlueMajo 11-02-2012 01:57 PM

Thanks Bizi.

Yeah, I will be spending about 12 hours at the lab every day from tomorrow until nov 28, the day Im having my exam :( Even the day of the party... Looks that I dont have salvation :(

bizi 11-02-2012 05:58 PM

take breaks during that time you will burn out at that rate.
((((((HUGS)))))
bizi

BlueMajo 11-02-2012 07:00 PM

I just wish I could be free while they are here.... :(

waves 11-03-2012 11:14 AM

Dear Majo.

I feel for you. I think all you can do at the moment is hope for the best, and lower your expectations. It sounds like you already have done the latter a bit. I would like to share some more thoughts with you if that is ok. This is a difficult situation. And there are some difficult perspectives, too I think.

As far as taking time off when the band is there, I was thinking ... they might not expect that of you at all... and, well, honestly, I am afraid it could also go both ways. Suppose you were free and wanted to show them around here and there, they might be thrilled ... or they might not be up for it? I don't know, I mean, they may have their own habits and rhythms when it comes to touring and traveling... they may be asleep/awake at odd times, eat at odd times etc. So I guess I'm saying, don't stress over that. Imho, that could work out ... or not, so, let the chips fall where they may and don't sweat it.

I hope you don't mind me saying that. I feel like all my posts are wet blankets? I don't mean to be. I am just trying to share other ways of looking at things. Once again I hope you don't feel hurt by my words.

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Now, you have a LOT on your hands. And part of that just happens to be that you have this fantastic band with a singer you really like coming to play at your personal party. That's REALLY COOL!!! Let yourself enjoy that Majo, please. Let go of the stress, other than what is required for the planning. Unfortunately, this has turned out a bit of bad timing because that takes some effort and these cells not cooperating at the same time... sigh....
naughty cells! :mad::(:rolleyes::cool:

So, I would like you to minimize what you concern yourself with.
  1. Work on your cell cultures.
  2. Make arrangements for the band with their manager.
There is no room for anything else. Much less is there room to worry about what there is no room for. See what I am saying? :o;)

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I am sorry you are crying sweetie. It's ok to have a good cry. It helps relieve stress, and releases endorphins so even if you cry a bit every day because you are stressed... that's ok, but after half an hour cut off the tap and have a piece of CHOCOLATE, yes. have a cup of tea. wash your face in cool water and dab rose water on your eyes. Tell yourself "I am beautiful, I am beloved. God Loves me. God will look after me. I can do this. It is going to be ok." Lie down, do belly breathing and focus on your breath for 5 minutes.

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I am concerned about the experiments and wish you some success with that soon, so that you have something certain to show for your exam. i will be sending good thoughts, and prayers too when i say them (not good at that lately). May you receive that miracle you wish for. :)

Hang in there sweetie. :heartthrob: :circlelove:

love

~ waves ~

bizi 11-03-2012 11:22 AM

This is so sweet waves.
love you
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

BlueMajo 11-03-2012 02:21 PM

Hi waves !!

I would never get mad with you or your words :hug: And in this case we think the same, so, :)

Yeah, I went to work today... Just hoping something will come out next week :( Panic !!!

Thank you so much to all of you that send me good vibes and positive thoughts, I really appreciate it :)

Thanks for your prayers and advices !!

Love you so much !!

Majo.

Mari 11-03-2012 04:09 PM

Dear Majo,


Sending lots of good vibes so that your cells grow as you want them to.

http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smile...mileys-849.gif



M

Dmom3005 11-03-2012 06:17 PM

Mayo

The Excited I thought you were was getting excited for the party.
Sorry. Just ignore me.


I hope things start to turn around. And ignore any mispellings.

they keep trying to show up.

Donna:grouphug::hug:

BlueMajo 11-04-2012 01:03 PM

Thank you for all the support Mari :hug:

Donna, I did understand what you wanted to say :hug:

I wish I could feel excited about my party, shame that school is absorbing all my joy :(

Love you all so much.

bizi 11-04-2012 03:40 PM

could you have a set time when you can think about your party. like set a time limit or a break in your day where you get to be excited and not miss out on those feelings?
hope this makes sense.
(((((HUGS))))))
bizi

BlueMajo 11-04-2012 06:54 PM

It does make sense Bizi :hug:

Right now my problem is, that the stress is so high that you cant focus... I hate when I reach this limit ! :(

Oh my... This feeling is horrendous !

Mari 11-04-2012 08:03 PM

Dear Majo,

:hug: :grouphug: :hug: :grouphug:

It is hard to go to work everyday 12 hours a day.

Do what you can to keep yourself well.
We are counting you to be happy and healthy.

M

BlueMajo 11-04-2012 08:13 PM

Thank you Mari.

Im going to try to talk with my main boss on tuesday.... I really want this semester to be over... :(

I feel butterflies thinking about the fact that the finnish men will be here in 10 days... :)

Ms manic 11-04-2012 11:15 PM

Maybe being busy with your cells will protect you from traveling musicians. Can you tell I'm a Gramma? Seriously though, if he's a good man he'll care about your needs. If he isn't a good man you don't want him.

BlueMajo 11-04-2012 11:55 PM

Yeah, I have been alone 30 years, so I dont want a bad man at this point of my life :D

I have told him Im having trouble at work at the moment and he hasnt said much, so I think he doesnt care... On the other hand, it is only my fault that Im celebrating my birthday when Im supposed to close my semester :(

Oh well, Im tired of everything around me right now :(

Ms manic 11-05-2012 12:16 AM

You are worth the very best, no less. Praying for healthy cells, too. Strongly suggest bubble bath and chocolate, making a realistic list of the attributes that you hope to find in a partner. I was in a hurry too, at your age, and when I stopped looking, hubby of 20+ years came along. He was worth the wait.
(Not to say that the Finn isn't the right one - maybe he is.)

Dmom3005 11-05-2012 09:22 AM

Mayo

He just may not have known what to say. And also may have been thinking
about a specific song. And just couldn't think about other things.

Its the way of a musician.

Donna:grouphug::hug:

BlueMajo 11-05-2012 10:14 AM

Thank you so much for your words and support desr Ms Manic and Donna :) :hug: This week something has to work !

Ms manic 11-07-2012 06:35 AM

Keep us posted.

BlueMajo 11-09-2012 08:39 PM

Hi dear all,

I have been working like crazy.... Still no results.... But my boss seems to understand the situation... seems.... but still, dont know what Im gonna present or say the day of my presentation....

But in the other topic, the party one....
It is over my friends.... the dream is over before it even started :(

I dont want this person to come anymore.... he used me. I paid him and he wanted to come do some other business.... without even crediting me.... and he is gonna meet a group of girls that precisly has been a hell with me in other concerts :eek:

So yeah, Maria pays everything, I left her party at the last place and meet all my fans for "free" while in Mexico.... SO UNFAIR. I dont know what you mean, but I feel used.... I cant stop crying.... I sent him a message saying I dont want him to come anymore.... Im going to cancel the flights (I know I wil loose them because I dont think airlines accept changing names) and the hotel.... He is not coming with my money. Maybe his friends can invite him too...

Im devasted... like, when you feel like you are about to explode of anger, disappointent, sadness etc... yeah that.... :(

I have even lost weight these days !! :eek: Me !!! the obese one !!! this is insane....

I feel terribly.

bizi 11-09-2012 11:54 PM

Dear Blue,
I am so sorry he used you. I don't quite understand it all but don't need to. I just know that you are hurting and need support. It sounds awful, and I feel bad for you.
(((((((HUGS))))))
bizi

Mari 11-10-2012 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMajo (Post 930212)
Hi dear all,

.... he used me.

Majo,:hug:.:grouphug:.:hug:.:grouphug:.

He is such a jerk. He used you and mislead you.
I am very sorry you had to go through this.

Mari

Ms manic 11-10-2012 02:26 PM

Look in the mirror and repeat after me, "I am valuable." Do it again.

Can you get your money back if you explain to the airlines that it was a fraudulent business transaction?

Seriously though, cancel the tickets and do not listen to any upcoming whiny sweet talk.

Ooooh. I'm so mad at this guy on your behalf. Do you have a gramma that kicks *** as well as I do?

You are valuable. You are worth a great love.

mymorgy 11-11-2012 10:45 AM

huge hugs
love
bobby

BlueMajo 11-11-2012 03:44 PM

Thank you dear all for your words of support, wisdom and love :hug: :hug:

I indeed need a grandma.... :( Miss mine so much....

I will try to get my money back....

He is the most wicked person I have met so far.... :( Uff....

Brokenfriend 11-11-2012 07:36 PM

Awww Blue. I'm so sorry. Gentle hugs. Gentle hugs. BF:hug::hug::hug:

Dmom3005 11-11-2012 08:07 PM

Mayo

Go get em girl.

We will be here to help you celebrate. Sure wish it was in person.

Hmmm, you could just trade the ticket and come see one of us.

Donna:grouphug::hug:

BlueMajo 11-11-2012 08:19 PM

Thank you so much for the hugs... They feel so great... I cant describe with words my big desire of meeting you in person :hug:

Donna, I dont think airlines allow to change the name of the passengers :(


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