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waves 08-10-2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vowel Lady (Post 1088369)
Awesome!
I think Tums is fine, but just double check. I took Gaviscon for awhile and to my shock, ended up with a lot aluminum in my system as this product (at least at the time) had aluminum in it. I know Tums has coloring in it. Surely, Tums should be ok, but I just have a suspicion that this one (Prelief) is a little more natural. Just a suspicion. People with bladder problems also use it. It just seems to neutralize things nicely. I'm amazed at the difference. I don't abuse it. It works very well for me to allow me to have a little coffee every day. Those who use it, love it. Yet, wouldn't you know it...most doctors have never heard of it. Go figure!

Hope this gets you to the Amazon reviews...many are taking it for burning bladder...a few down is someone taking it to drink coffee
http://www.amazon.com/Prelief-Tablet...ywords=Prelief

Yes I can see the reviews from that link, thank you.

Don't worry, I don't take Tums. It isn't even distributed where I live. I just thought of Tums when you mentioned Prelief was calcium-based, and you didn't know how it worked. ;)

I doubt Prelief is sold here, but it is helpful to know that an antacid might make the difference, so that I can eventually add some coffee back. I LOOOOOOOOOOVE coffee! I'll ask at the pharmacy about the active ingredient in it, per your recommendation.

For now, I'll continue with tea as long as I can, hopefully until things are controlled. I will be trying to reduce my now escalated tea consumption, also.

Do you drink much tea? If so do you find it bothers you the way coffee does? Because if it is just about the caffeine for you, a cup of tea might prevent your headache as well as a half cup of coffee. I've read that tea is not as bothersome as coffee for GERD, and that seems to be the case for me.

waves

bizi 08-10-2014 04:26 PM

is it the caffeine that bothers the gerd?
different teas have differing amounts of caffeine.
I think it goes from higher to lower:
black white green decaf then herbal that has none.
which kind of tea are you drinking waves?
and I guess it matters how long you steep it for too.
bizi

I ended up having a 6 ounce cup of coffee at church this morning around 11am because I was nervous and wanted to hold onto something.

Mari 08-10-2014 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by waves (Post 1088387)
I've read that tea is not as bothersome as coffee for GERD, and that seems to be the case for me.

waves

Waves,

I am following along but not 100% getting it so I have to ask a stupid question (or two) once in a while.

1. You like caffeine.
The coffee is a problem
Caffeine in tea is less of a problem. :):):):)

2. Do you like coffee for properties other than the pick up from the caffeine?

Do I have it mostly right?

M

Dmom3005 08-10-2014 05:20 PM

Wow, I didn't keep up well on this one.

But I love coffee also. But I have to watch how much I
drink it causes migraines for me.

Also I have been drinking lots of hot tea lately. Just the
plain stuff with sweet n low and sometimes a little milk.

Donna :hug::grouphug:

waves 08-10-2014 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bizi (Post 1088438)
is it the caffeine that bothers the gerd?
different teas have differing amounts of caffeine.
I think it goes from higher to lower:
black white green decaf then herbal that has none.
which kind of tea are you drinking waves?
and I guess it matters how long you steep it for too.
bizi

That all sounds right, Bizi, as far as I know, in terms of caffeine. Not sure about the order of white and green -- someone else can confirm or correct.

Caffeine seems to be the main culprit, but mixed results indicate that it is not the only player. Coffee has been found to bother GERD more than tea. However, according to at least one study, while decaffeinated coffee produced fewer symptoms than regular coffee, no such difference was seen between regular and decaffeinated tea.

My regular "tea" is strong black tea. I do also drink other things (green tea, any of many herbals, broth, water) as the need or desire for them arises. I really don't do substitutions other than occasionally decaf for coffee (but never for tea).

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I ended up having a 6 ounce cup of coffee at church this morning around 11am because I was nervous and wanted to hold onto something.
Holding a beverage can work for nervousness. Done that. :)

waves 08-10-2014 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mari (Post 1088446)
Waves,

I am following along but not 100% getting it so I have to ask a stupid question (or two) once in a while.

1. You like caffeine.
The coffee is a problem
Caffeine in tea is less of a problem. :):):):)

2. Do you like coffee for properties other than the pick up from the caffeine?

Do I have it mostly right?

M

Yes you do.

I used coffee for its high caffeine content.
ALSO
I enjoyed coffee for its taste.

Right now I am "using" tea, and it feels very, very strange indeed... vaguely blasphemous! :eek:

Tea contains less caffeine. My understanding, from studies and articles, is that this is why it is less of a problem. Some studies show that other chemicals in tea may be a factor, because decaffeinating tea does not reduce its impact on GERD. But it produces fewer symptoms by volume than coffee does.

I have effectively stopped drinking coffee (at least until I cave into a taste craving for it). I will try to reduce my tea intake gradually, as well. Need to hedge my bets at this point.

==> I still have burning, but it is less than yesterday. I hope it isn't a coincidence.

waves

Mari 08-10-2014 07:03 PM

caffeine in types of teas
 
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Originally Posted by waves (Post 1088483)
Not sure about the order of white and green -- someone else can confirm or correct.

Caffeine seems to be the main culprit, but mixed results indicate that it is not the only player. Coffee has been found to bother GERD more than tea. However, according to at least one study, while decaffeinated coffee produced fewer symptoms than regular coffee, no such difference was seen between regular and decaffeinated tea.

My regular "tea" is strong black tea. I do also drink other things (green tea, any of many herbals, broth, water) as the need or desire for them arises. I really don't do substitutions other than occasionally decaf for coffee (but never for tea).


Not sure of the website but the info seems right to me:

http://ratetea.com/topic/caffeine-content-of-tea/21/

It is a widespread myth that black tea contains more caffeine than green tea, and another myth that white tea contains the least caffeine of all teas.

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Studies that have actually measured the caffeine content of a large number of different teas have consistently found that caffeine levels vary more among individual teas than across broad categories of tea such as black, white, green, oolong, or pu-erh.
A study published in 2005 in the Journal of Food Science listed, among other things, the caffeine content of 77 different teas, and found a broad range of caffeine content among both green and black teas.[4] Surprisingly, the tea in this study that was found to contain the most caffeine was a white tea, solidly dispelling the myth about white tea's caffeine content
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There are so many different factors influencing the caffeine content of tea, that it is hard to make accurate generalizations about the caffeine content of tea. Caffeine levels vary widely from one particular tea to the next. The only certain way to know with certainty the caffeine level of a particular tea is to test it in a laboratory.
This I found interesting:
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Since the tips and tender young leaves are most vulnerable to insects, these parts of the plant are highest in caffeine; the older leaves are tougher and thus lower in caffeine
M

waves 08-10-2014 07:47 PM

Wow,

That was very interesting, Mari, thank you!! :)

I also remember something about phenol content in tea, and across types of tea, affecting the rate of absorption of caffeine (and therefore the relative "joltiness" and duration of the effect). I either read this a long time ago, or my mother read it and told me.

I'm going to look that up and see if I can confirm it. I wonder now, if it is another myth.

waves

bizi 08-10-2014 09:52 PM

I went to the above link and read the whole article. wow...very interesting. hard to tell what teas have what.
bizi

Vowel Lady 08-10-2014 10:45 PM

Regular tea (black tea?) doesn't really bother me. I would have to drink a ridiculous amount before it becomes an issue on both the GERD and headache fronts. So, it's safe.

However, green tea is another story. It doesn't bother the GERD, but it will give me a headache. A darn shame, as it is so good for you.


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